4:56 pm |
ShellTerrell: |
Welcome to #edchat If you are new feel free to ask me or @rliberni any questions! |
4:57 pm |
BterThanSchool: |
RT @jpsteltz: tech in classroom..ugh...how to get experienced teachers on board? http://bit.ly/9duhwI #authors #blog #education #edtech #edchat #Teacher |
4:57 pm |
JasonFlom: |
@ShellTerrell Furthering educational reform necessitates we, as teachers, find the time to make our ideas and voices heard. #edchat |
4:58 pm |
hadleyjf: |
My next hour is devoted to #edchat |
4:58 pm |
msmithpds: |
I'm getting real-time search results at TweetGrid http://tweetgrid.com/ #edchat |
4:58 pm |
ShellTerrell: |
Now as we speak #vanmeter is furthering educational reform by presenting to superintendents & the state legislature #edchat |
4:59 pm |
jgmac1106: |
Listen 2 President Obama's youtube address reform takes "creative teachers" but also says RTTP supports creative teachers. Not sure #edchat |
4:59 pm |
ShellTerrell: |
Do we believe all educators should further educational reform? Why? #edchat |
4:59 pm |
ShellTerrell: |
RT @msmithpds: I'm getting real-time search results at TweetGrid http://tweetgrid.com/ #edchat |
4:59 pm |
DeronDurflinger: |
RT @ShellTerrell: Now as we speak #vanmeter is furthering educational reform by presenting to superintendents& the state legislature #edchat |
5:00 pm |
olafelch: |
Maybe the biggest problem for teachers is lack of respect for what they do. It makes it hard for them to get their message across. #edchat |
5:00 pm |
rliberni: |
fro the next hour my tweets are devoted to edchat #edchat |
5:00 pm |
jgmac1106: |
I think in many way tchrs support reform 25 (or 30-35) kids at a time. Good tching can be contagious (esp w/ parental pressure) #edchat |
5:00 pm |
ShellTerrell: |
RT @JasonFlom: Furthering educational reform necessitates we, as teachers, find the time to make our ideas & voices heard. #edchat |
5:00 pm |
rliberni: |
RT @ShellTerrell: Do we believe all educators should further educational reform? Why? #edchat |
5:00 pm |
JasonFlom: |
We also need to stay on top of policy and the reasoning behind it. #edchat |
5:00 pm |
digitalchalk: |
RT @ShellTerrell: Do we believe all educators should further educational reform? Why? #edchat |
5:01 pm |
teachingwthsoul: |
To my Twitter Friends...For the next hour my tweets dedicated to #Edchat Topic: As Educators what do we do to further educational reform? |
5:01 pm |
ShellTerrell: |
RT @jgmac1106: in many way tchrs support reform (30-35) kids at a time. Good tching can be contagious (esp w/ parental pressure) #edchat |
5:01 pm |
hadleyjf: |
@ShellTerrell Wow what a question! Should all educators further reform? Always such a given - change is best...or not? #edchat |
5:01 pm |
Dramanique: |
RT @ShellTerrell: Do we believe all educators should further educational reform? Why? #edchat |
5:01 pm |
franze98: |
educational reform will require those in power to make the tough choice & do whats right 4 kids #edchat |
5:01 pm |
MrR0g3rs: |
@rliberni i think that educators have an essential role to play in reform because of the experience they bring to the issue #edchat |
5:01 pm |
rliberni: |
Is reform from within preferable to that imposed? What about its validity? #edchat |
5:01 pm |
rliberni: |
RT @franze98: educational reform will require those in power to make the tough choice & do whats right 4 kids #edchat |
5:02 pm |
jgmac1106: |
RT @JasonFlom: We also need to stay on top of policy and the reasoning behind it. #edchat |
5:02 pm |
hadleyjf: |
We have to model best teaching and learning everyday - with sts. and with colleagues #edchat |
5:02 pm |
openstudy: |
For the next hour my tweets dedicated to #Edchat Topic: As Educators what do we do to further educational reform? (via @ShellTerrell) |
5:02 pm |
allofek12: |
@ShellTerrell @rliberni reform is a natural process of improvement & evolution, all educators should contrib. #edchat |
5:02 pm |
cybraryman1: |
One education chat #ecosys is working on How to drive change in Public Education. See Ed Chats: http://bit.ly/7w7P59 #edchat |
5:02 pm |
Brian_ThomasTCI: |
#Edchat, I'm looking for a few good people to respond to a voicethread. Teachers or Administrators. http://bit.ly/9wPpiF |
5:02 pm |
DeronDurflinger: |
@ShellTerrell Thanks Shell for helping. It is appreciated #vanmeter #edchat |
5:02 pm |
ShellTerrell: |
Why does it have to fall on the teachers? Isn't edu reform more powerful if all stakeholders are involved? #edchat |
5:02 pm |
rliberni: |
RT @allofek12: @ShellTerrell @rliberni reform is a natural process of improvement & evolution, all educators should contrib. #edchat |
5:02 pm |
hadleyjf: |
@rliberni I am not sure that "imposed" reform ever works! We close our doors and do what we want. #edchat |
5:02 pm |
cybraryman1: |
RT @MrR0g3rs: @rliberni i think that educators have an essential role to play in reform because of their experience #edchat |
5:03 pm |
hadleyjf: |
@Brian_ThomasTCI Can it be after #edchat |
5:03 pm |
rliberni: |
RT @hadleyjf: @rliberni I am not sure that "imposed" reform ever works! We close our doors and do what we want. #edchat |
5:03 pm |
evmaiden: |
RT @ShellTerrell: Why does it have to fall on the teachers? Isn't edu reform more powerful if all stakeholders are involved? #edchat |
5:03 pm |
sudam09: |
Education shld B controlled by educators n it shld B kept away from politics. Administrative interference shld B minimised. #edchat |
5:03 pm |
olafelch: |
@rliberni As politicians say, "opposition sucks!" You have to be in the discussion to win it. #edchat |
5:03 pm |
akamrt: |
#edchat Is the role of the teacher to further ed reform or to be the instigator of reform? |
5:03 pm |
MrR0g3rs: |
#edchat it seems that teachers are more powerless than ever in these economic times, many admins just don't want to hear about reform |
5:03 pm |
esolcourses: |
RT @rliberni Is reform from within preferable to that imposed? What about its validity? #edchat ] personally, I'd be inclined to say yes |
5:03 pm |
jpsteltz: |
how do we get 'experienced teachers' to desire reform that might make them change? #edchat |
5:03 pm |
vanessacassie: |
My next hour of tweets will be devoted to #edchat! Come join in the conversation #edchat |
5:04 pm |
lblanken: |
as a parent, I'd love to work with teachers on education reform #edchat |
5:04 pm |
ShellTerrell: |
RT @rliberni: RT @allofek12: reform is a natural process of improvement & evolution, all educators should contrib. #edchat |
5:04 pm |
JasonFlom: |
As a populous & as admin, we need 2 provide safe (supportive) environment for teachers 2 sound out w/out feeling job is in jeopardy. #edchat |
5:04 pm |
hadleyjf: |
@TomWhitby Where are you? #edchat |
5:04 pm |
rliberni: |
RT @jpsteltz: how do we get 'experienced teachers' to desire reform that might make them change? #edchat |
5:04 pm |
sudam09: |
Educators know what is good for education more than a minister or legislator and the reform should start from them. #edchat |
5:04 pm |
vanessacassie: |
@jpsteltz I don't always think it's the 'experienced' teachers that are the most resistant to change.. #edchat |
5:04 pm |
MrR0g3rs: |
@ShellTerrell its not that they have to be involved, just not excluded #edchat |
5:04 pm |
JasonFlom: |
In effect, we must be advocates for teacher advocacy. #edchat |
5:04 pm |
evmaiden: |
#edchat @sudam09 agreed we shouldn't look to govt to drive the reform |
5:04 pm |
hadleyjf: |
RT @ShellTerrell: RT @rliberni: RT @allofek12: reform is a natural process of improvement & evolution, all educators should contrib. #edchat |
5:04 pm |
ShellTerrell: |
@DeronDurflinger Your school innovative! True game changers in Edu. Anyway I can help let me know #vanmeter #edchat |
5:05 pm |
hadleyjf: |
I agree RT @vanessacassie: @jpsteltz I dont always think its the experienced teachers that are the most resistant to change.. #edchat |
5:05 pm |
openstudy: |
@rliberni is education reform a systematic change and does it require more money? #edchat |
5:05 pm |
rliberni: |
RT @evmaiden:@sudam09 agreed we shouldn't look to govt to drive the reform, Can this be avoided? #edchat |
5:05 pm |
MrR0g3rs: |
RT @vanessacassie: @jpsteltz I don't always think it's the 'experienced' teachers that are the most resistant to change.. #edchat |
5:05 pm |
hadleyjf: |
How do we create a safe and creative environment for students and teachers? #edchat |
5:05 pm |
ShellTerrell: |
RT @JasonFlom: we need 2 provide safe (supportive) environmt 4 tchrs 2 sound out w/out feeling job is in jeopardy #edchat |
5:05 pm |
JasonFlom: |
good question. both, perhaps? RT @akamrt: #edchat Is the role of the teacher to further ed reform or to be the instigator of reform? |
5:05 pm |
jpsteltz: |
met some students in the hall earlier on a field trip...to our in-house museum...the writing lab #edchat |
5:05 pm |
ShellTerrell: |
RT @MrR0g3rs: its not that they have to be involved, just not excluded #edchat |
5:05 pm |
mctreehugger: |
Teacher leaders must sow the seeds of reform from the inside. #edchat |
5:05 pm |
esolcourses: |
#edchat IMO, reform often tends to be imposed by people who don't consult teachers and who fail to appreciate the practical implications... |
5:05 pm |
vanessacassie: |
I think in order to 'reform' ed, we need to identify what's broken, then work on how to fix it #edchat |
5:05 pm |
jeanbont: |
@ShellTerrell Yes, they can do so by example, by showing what works in the classroom, especially with web2.0 technology #edchat |
5:05 pm |
rliberni: |
RT @openstudy: @rliberni is education reform a systematic change and does it require more money? #edchat |
5:05 pm |
ShellTerrell: |
RT @vanessacassie: @jpsteltz I don't always think it's the 'experienced' teachers that are the most resistant to change.. #edchat |
5:06 pm |
1ernesto1: |
RT @JasonFlom: As a populous & as admin,we need2provide safe environment for teachers 2 sound out w/out feeling job is in jeopardy. #edchat |
5:06 pm |
olafelch: |
@sudam09 just because ministers aren't educators, doesn't mean they can't have good ideas. #edchat |
5:06 pm |
msmithpds: |
if we want to push educ reform we need to get admin to back it #edchat |
5:06 pm |
ShellTerrell: |
RT @jeanbont: Yes, they can do so by example, by showing what works in the classroom, especially with web2.0 technology #edchat |
5:06 pm |
acmcdonaldgp: |
Agreed. Tough to lead reform when your job is on the line RT @MrR0g3rs: #edchat many admins just don't want to hear about reform |
5:06 pm |
evmaiden: |
ecchat @rliberni Can this be avoided? stakeholders yes but they shouldn't be driving the bus #edchat |
5:06 pm |
JasonFlom: |
@MrR0g3rs Good point. Reform often just means "More to do" for tchrs and admin. #edchat |
5:06 pm |
ShellTerrell: |
RT @evmaiden: #edchat @sudam09 agreed we shouldn't look to govt to drive the reform |
5:06 pm |
cybraryman1: |
To buy into reform educators have to a big part of the process #edchat |
5:06 pm |
rliberni: |
@openstudy most things require more money as gvts throw committees etc at it #edchat |
5:06 pm |
vanessacassie: |
I feel that sometimes change is pushed simply to promote change, without a lot of forethought and identifying the problems #edchat |
5:06 pm |
hadleyjf: |
Look to admin. to provide time - such a precious commodity - to learn and grow, share with other ts. #edchat |
5:06 pm |
akamrt: |
#edchat Should teachers support top down initiated reform that they know is not sound? |
5:06 pm |
msmithpds: |
and give tchrs commen planning time & opp to use Web 2.0 tools #edchat |
5:06 pm |
StarrMatica: |
RT @esolcourses: #edchat IMO, reform often tends to be imposed by people who don't consult teachers and who fail to appreciate the practical implications... |
5:06 pm |
rliberni: |
RT @olafelch: @sudam09 yes they can, just because ministers aren't educators, doesn't mean they can't have good ideas. #edchat |
5:06 pm |
olafelch: |
RT @cybraryman1: To buy into reform educators have to a big part of the process #edchat |
5:06 pm |
ShellTerrell: |
RT @sudam09: Educators know what is good for education more than a minister or legislator and the reform should start from them. #edchat |
5:07 pm |
infodivabronx: |
Oh! There's #edchat going on! |
5:07 pm |
1ernesto1: |
RT @VanessaCassie: I think in order to 'reform' ed, we need to identify what's broken, then work on how to fix it #edchat |
5:07 pm |
rliberni: |
Are educators sometimes too close? Can they see the wood for the trees? #edchat |
5:07 pm |
rliberni: |
RT @evmaiden: ecchat @rliberni Can this be avoided? stakeholders yes but they shouldn't be driving the bus #edchat |
5:07 pm |
jgmac1106: |
Central to reform issue is also Federalist debate. Is education a state or national issue. Purse strings pull politicians/policies #edchat |
5:07 pm |
rliberni: |
RT @1ernesto1: RT @VanessaCassie: I think in order to 'reform' ed, we need to identify what's broken, then work on how to fix it #edchat |
5:07 pm |
msmithpds: |
@alicebarr presented at #educon how her school utilized Google Apps giving tchrs authenic experiences w/ web tools #edchat |
5:07 pm |
vanessacassie: |
@StarrMatica I completely agree! Too much 'floofy' talking and not enough practical, realistic application! #edchat |
5:07 pm |
fredsheahan: |
Teachers have a necessary voice in reform; cultural change will require community action. #edchat |
5:07 pm |
hadleyjf: |
How to recover from missing #educon... #edchat |
5:07 pm |
ShellTerrell: |
@sudam09 I have to say I agree completely! Unfortunately edu will not ever be taken away from politics #edchat |
5:07 pm |
ShellTerrell: |
RT @1ernesto1: RT @VanessaCassie: I think in order to 'reform' ed, we need to identify what's broken, then work on how to fix it #edchat |
5:08 pm |
openstudy: |
@ShellTerrell education reform is happening. Technology + 2 more billions dollars for this year's budget is a GREAT start. #edchat |
5:08 pm |
jpsteltz: |
@vanessacassie young teachers can ignite a staff w/new tech&new ideas.i am in the middle, not young, not old.i want to keep learning #edchat |
5:08 pm |
rliberni: |
Too many cooks and you might get a dog's breakfast! #edchat |
5:08 pm |
hadleyjf: |
RT @rliberni: Are educators sometimes too close? Can they see the wood for the trees? #edchat |
5:08 pm |
sudam09: |
Educators shld collaborate among themselves 2 agree on a particular reform & platform shld B provided 4 them by the administration. #edchat |
5:08 pm |
boundstaffpress: |
For the next hour my tweet will be dedicated to #edchat Come join me. |
5:08 pm |
JasonFlom: |
@sudam09 Or include them, at a minimum. But you're right in that tchrs hold the most iinstitutional/experiential knowledge/wisdom #edchat |
5:08 pm |
DeronDurflinger: |
@ShellTerrell Thanks #vanmeter #edchat |
5:08 pm |
olafelch: |
@rliberni Sometimes a bit of distance helps. #edchat |
5:08 pm |
rliberni: |
RT @ShellTerrell: @sudam09 I have to say I agree completely! Unfortunately edu will not ever be taken away from politics #edchat |
5:08 pm |
msmithpds: |
i don't think edu is broken, it is one job that is always evolving to suit the child's need #edchat |
5:08 pm |
ShellTerrell: |
RT @rliberni: Too many cooks and you might get a dog's breakfast! #edchat |
5:08 pm |
vanessacassie: |
@jpsteltz I agree that young teachers are often enthusiastic, but I find they're often trying to just keep their head above water #edchat |
5:08 pm |
evmaiden: |
RT @cybraryman1: To buy into reform educators have to a big part of the process #edchat |
5:08 pm |
ShellTerrell: |
RT @openstudy: edu reform is happening. Technology + 2 more billions dollars for this year's budget is a GREAT start. #edchat |
5:09 pm |
akamrt: |
@geobart This is true. Wouldn't reform be more powerful if driven by tchrs & supported by admin instead of the other way? #edchat |
5:09 pm |
hadleyjf: |
We need to do more than identify the problem. We need to identify the goal! What do we want for students #edchat |
5:09 pm |
rliberni: |
The role of education as a political football will always mitigate against true reform #edchat |
5:09 pm |
jpsteltz: |
agreed RT @mctreehugger: Teacher leaders must sow the seeds of reform from the inside. #edchat |
5:09 pm |
acmcdonaldgp: |
I think reform should involve parents working with schools and legislators too! We should attend to our clients needs too. #edchat |
5:09 pm |
vanessacassie: |
@jpsteltz That survival mode often means there's no time to contribute to 'new' initiatives and new thoughts... #edchat |
5:09 pm |
msmithpds: |
True true!!: RT @cybraryman1: To buy into reform educators have to a big part of the process #edchat |
5:09 pm |
ShellTerrell: |
RT @fredsheahan: Teachers have a necessary voice in reform; cultural change will require community action. #edchat |
5:09 pm |
StarrMatica: |
@VanessaCassie Do others feel like administrators are too far removed from the day to day classroom? (Not all of course, but many?) #edchat |
5:09 pm |
Oh_the_Places: |
#edchat - missed the info this morning. What's the topic? |
5:09 pm |
jgmac1106: |
leaving jdging tchrs by test scores aside...I am glad RTTP money becomes part of competitive grant vs throwing money at bad #edchat |
5:09 pm |
TallGamer: |
@jgmac1106 I think education is a National issue and that's part of the isssue we need more actuaon from up top #edchat |
5:09 pm |
allofek12: |
RT @ShellTerrell RT @openstudy: edu reform is happening. Technology + $ 2 billion for this year's budget is a GREAT start. #edchat |
5:09 pm |
jeanbont: |
#edchat A lot of reform can happen at the school level from teachers willing to spearhead new ideas and help inservice staff. |
5:09 pm |
ShellTerrell: |
RT @tomfullerton: @ShellTerrell distributed leadership - cooperative approach to PD - teacher inquiry not top-down #edchat |
5:09 pm |
JasonFlom: |
@MrR0g3rs @VanessaCassie @jpsteltz Depends on the change and where it originated. #edchat |
5:10 pm |
SErwin: |
@ShellTerrell agree! All stakeholders (teacher, student, parent, admin, community) should all be involved in process. #edchat |
5:10 pm |
olafelch: |
Before you get obsessed with reforming something, you need very clear ideas what you want to achieve! #edchat |
5:10 pm |
vanessacassie: |
@StarrMatica Some school divisions have 'rotating' admin positions to counteract that issue -- 4 years as admin, back to teaching #edchat |
5:10 pm |
msmithpds: |
thankfully many Web 2.0 tools are free - leave the real $$ to buy the tools (computers, mobile devices) #edchat |
5:10 pm |
rliberni: |
RT @jpsteltz: agreed RT @mctreehugger: Teacher leaders must sow the seeds of reform from the inside. yes but this isn't easy #edchat |
5:10 pm |
rliberni: |
RT @ShellTerrell: RT @tomfullerton: @ShellTerrell distributed leadership - cooperative approach to PD - teacher inquiry not top-down #edchat |
5:10 pm |
jgmac1106: |
RT @rliberni: Too many cooks and you might get a dog's breakfast! #edchat |
5:10 pm |
cybraryman1: |
Teachers should lead but please do not leave out students and parents in terms of education reform. #edchat |
5:10 pm |
sudam09: |
@rliberni Of course they can but their vote politics generally make them myopic and they need to be reminded by people concerned. #edchat |
5:10 pm |
m_yam: |
RT @olafelch: Before you get obsessed with reforming something, you need very clear ideas what you want to achieve! #edchat |
5:10 pm |
vanessacassie: |
Is the main issue with ed reform that no one can agree on what the reform should be? #edchat |
5:10 pm |
esolcourses: |
RT @akamrt: @geobart Wouldn't reform be more powerful if driven by tchrs & supported by admin instead of the other way? #edchat |
5:10 pm |
swalker2: |
Reform comes frm ppl far removed from frnt lines of teaching - those ppl need 2 ask those on the frnt lines wht does & does not work #edchat |
5:10 pm |
Litland: |
@hadleyjf That seems to have been an elusive question now for a couple of decades, hasn't it? #edchat |
5:10 pm |
akamrt: |
RT @rliberni: The role of edu as a political football will always mitigate against true reform #edchat <True. |
5:10 pm |
boundstaffpress: |
The best way to start reform is in my classroom. I will change to better serve my students. #edchat |
5:10 pm |
ShellTerrell: |
RT @JasonFlom: good ?. both, perhaps? RT @akamrt: #edchat Is the role of the tchr to further ed reform or to be the instigator of reform? |
5:10 pm |
openstudy: |
Before you get obsessed with reforming something, you need very clear ideas what you want to achieve! #edchat (via @olafelch) |
5:11 pm |
msmithpds: |
@olafelch my idea of education reform is to change the type of learning environment kids are experiencing #edchat |
5:11 pm |
ShellTerrell: |
RT @SErwin: @ShellTerrell agree! All stakeholders (teacher, student, parent, admin, community) should all be involved in process. #edchat |
5:11 pm |
acmcdonaldgp: |
One thing re: education is that the expectations of the system change w/time. This causes confusion. Need to identify our goals. #edchat |
5:11 pm |
juleach: |
@jeanbont I completely agree... gotta be a grass roots effort!! #edchat |
5:11 pm |
Litland: |
@hadleyjf seems we focus on school environment which treats the symptoms of the problem. #edchat |
5:11 pm |
rliberni: |
@olafelch as in politicians? I'm afraid that a lot of their input ends up being point scoring #edchat |
5:11 pm |
hadleyjf: |
@Litland Elusive and ever-changing, it seems #edchat |
5:11 pm |
olafelch: |
@cybraryman1 Stakeholders must be involved, but not all have the skills to offer something useful. #edchat |
5:11 pm |
JasonFlom: |
Good point! RT @cybraryman1: Teachers should lead but please do not leave out students and parents in terms of education reform. #edchat |
5:11 pm |
jeanbont: |
They do ask frontline workers. However they ask others too and mix ideas, sometimes with non-ideal results. #edchat |
5:11 pm |
ShellTerrell: |
RT @geobart: Fully agreed. Of course, you can't expect everyone to be a visualization or interactivity expert though. #edchat |
5:11 pm |
m_yam: |
RT @esolcourses: RT @akamrt: @geobart Wouldn't reform be more powerful if driven by tchrs & supported by admin instead of the other way? #edchat |
5:11 pm |
msmithpds: |
@esolcourses if the teachers do it on their own - the kids would love & praise teacher - bring tchr's skills to admins view #edchat |
5:11 pm |
jpsteltz: |
reform is often talked about as important, but never seems to actually occur...why?? #edchat |
5:11 pm |
rliberni: |
RT @Litland: @hadleyjf seems we focus on school environment which treats the symptoms of the problem. #edchat |
5:11 pm |
Litland: |
@hadleyjf Lack of creativity and safety being symptoms of one problem; concern for job security perhaps symptom of leadership prob #edchat |
5:11 pm |
swalker2: |
Too often teachers involved in reform appear to be looking out for themselves - this has to change #edchat |
5:12 pm |
rliberni: |
RT @jeanbont: They do ask frontline workers. However they ask others too and mix ideas, sometimes with non-ideal results. #edchat |
5:12 pm |
MrR0g3rs: |
@swalker2 or, teachers need 2 get on the front lines themselves. starting 2 believe that 1 of us is going 2 have 2 run 4 office #edchat |
5:12 pm |
msmithpds: |
@cybraryman1 just following what my boys want of their classrooms! #edchat |
5:12 pm |
jgmac1106: |
@jeanbont #edchat agrree. but too often these tchrs get used up. need salary model recognizing commtment and xtra work not just yrs on job |
5:12 pm |
teachingwthsoul: |
The road maps are there. Laid out for us by some amazing educators/authors/researchers. Getting Top Admin to support, was my battle!#edchat |
5:12 pm |
vanessacassie: |
RT @acmcdonaldgp One thing re:ed is the expectations of the system change w/time. This causes confusion. Need to identify goals. #edchat |
5:12 pm |
boundstaffpress: |
@geobart Wouldn't reform be more powerful if driven by tchrs & supported by admin instead of the other way? #edchat |
5:12 pm |
rliberni: |
RT @jpsteltz: reform is often talked about as important, but never seems to actually occur...why?? too true #edchat |
5:12 pm |
m_yam: |
RT @Litland: @hadleyjf Lack of creativity and safety being symptoms of one problem; concern for job security perhaps symptom of leadership prob #edchat |
5:12 pm |
boundstaffpress: |
RT @vanessacassie: Is the main issue with ed reform that no one can agree on what the reform should be? #edchat |
5:12 pm |
sudam09: |
@JasonFlom yes that is a good course. Include them in the process of reform but majority of educators should be there. #edchat |
5:12 pm |
olafelch: |
@m_yam It might be a more powerful reform process, but where do you get the time to do it? #edchat |
5:12 pm |
Litland: |
@hadleyjf The connection between all: lack of character development in students, incl those who later become our teachers,principals #edchat |
5:12 pm |
JasonFlom: |
RT @jeanbont: @ShellTerrell Yes, they can do so by example, by showing what works in classroom, especially with web2.0 technology #edchat |
5:12 pm |
AngelaMaiers: |
RT @JasonFlom: In effect, we must be advocates for teacher advocacy. #edchat |
5:13 pm |
akamrt: |
#edchat Who is in the position to assess need for reform, design reform, & implement reform. Shouldn't admin take direction fromtchrs? |
5:13 pm |
olafelch: |
RT @msmithpds: @olafelch my idea of education reform is to change the type of learning environment kids are experiencing #edchat Excellent! |
5:13 pm |
teachingwthsoul: |
I SO agree!!!RT @msmithpds: i don't think edu is broken, it is one job that is always evolving to suit the child's need #edchat |
5:13 pm |
msmithpds: |
it's neat how tchrs & talking so much on philosophy w/ conversations hosted through these events - very inspiring 4 me #edchat |
5:13 pm |
hadleyjf: |
RT @AngelaMaiers: RT @JasonFlom: In effect, we must be advocates for teacher advocacy. #edchat |
5:13 pm |
elanaleoni: |
@JasonFlom A safe environment is very important. On top of that, we also need to give them hope that their sugg may make a diff. #edchat |
5:13 pm |
akamrt: |
#edchat Don't teachers have a moral obligation to instigate reform? |
5:13 pm |
MrR0g3rs: |
@rliberni its because the system is set up to protect the wrong people & policies #edchat |
5:13 pm |
SErwin: |
I think we often overlook the working world. What skills do they want their employees to have coming out of school? #edchat |
5:13 pm |
boundstaffpress: |
We've seen reform in the accountability of teachers. I'm ready to see a reform in the accountability of students. #edchat |
5:14 pm |
bealup: |
@hadleyjf Agree with you (though I don't know what came before -just logged in) #edchat |
5:14 pm |
Litland: |
#edchat For those using the #39clues series in class, #book7 released to buy http://litland.parentsduty.com/Buy-Books.php |
5:14 pm |
ShellTerrell: |
What are the greatest barriers to edu reform? Is it really that tchrs are apathetic or they have no support? #edchat |
5:14 pm |
vanessacassie: |
@msmithpds I agree -- it's nice to express your views and have them challenged in order to refine your opinions sometimes! #edchat |
5:14 pm |
allofek12: |
@SErwin #edchat The skills to be a lifelong learner, to be adaptable in all situations |
5:14 pm |
olafelch: |
@akamrt A teacher is an SME. That doesn't necessarily make them an expert on reform. #edchat |
5:14 pm |
openstudy: |
@rliberni reform ='s greater efficiency, more educated students, and better schools. The question is how? #edchat |
5:14 pm |
acmcdonaldgp: |
Silly Q'n maybe but what exactly do we want to reform? Instruction? Curric? Structure? Everything? #edchat A goal might help w/focus. |
5:14 pm |
rliberni: |
RT @akamrt: #edchat Don't teachers have a moral obligation to instigate reform? Yes, it's a part of education looking at innovation |
5:14 pm |
m_yam: |
RT @ShellTerrell: RT @SErwin: @ShellTerrell agree! All stakeholders (teacher, student, parent, admin, community) should all be involved in process. #edchat |
5:14 pm |
sudam09: |
In India many politicians are running educational institutions to further their political clout and income. #edchat |
5:14 pm |
msmithpds: |
RT @akamrt: #edchat Don't teachers have a moral obligation to instigate reform? - most certainly if they do their job well |
5:14 pm |
jpsteltz: |
too often forgotten in the reform debate are the logistics...class size, tech availability, cooperative willingness, etc #edchat |
5:14 pm |
rliberni: |
RT @allofek12: @SErwin #edchat The skills to be a lifelong learner, to be adaptable in all situations |
5:14 pm |
kunami10: |
What exactly are we trying to reform? Instructional practices, curriculum, or both? #edchat |
5:14 pm |
ShellTerrell: |
RT @kunami10: What exactly are we trying to reform? Instructional practices, curriculum, or both? #edchat |
5:14 pm |
MrR0g3rs: |
@akamrt i agree. but currently admins are too distracted with the policy to try to change the policy #edchat |
5:14 pm |
rliberni: |
#edchat |
5:14 pm |
cybraryman1: |
RT @SErwin: I think we often overlook the working world. What skills do they want their employees to have coming out of school? #edchat |
5:14 pm |
808lika: |
RT @ShellTerrell: Do we believe all educators should further educational reform? Why? #edchat |
5:15 pm |
olafelch: |
RT @rliberni: @olafelch as in politicians? I'm afraid that a lot of their input ends up being point scoring #edchat Agreed. |
5:15 pm |
m_yam: |
RT @boundstaffpress: The best way to start reform is in my classroom. I will change to better serve my students. #edchat |
5:15 pm |
hadleyjf: |
Is there a way to revive the love of learning and teaching, of being with kids in teachers and admins? That would reform schs. #edchat |
5:15 pm |
JoshAdamsMath: |
RT @jpsteltz: tech in classroom..ugh...how to get experienced teachers on board? http://bit.ly/9duhwI #authors #blog #education #edtech #edchat #Teacher |
5:15 pm |
acmcdonaldgp: |
Or no focus/direction? RT @ShellTerrell: What are the greatest barriers to edu reform? Is it tchrs are apathetic/have no support? #edchat |
5:15 pm |
franze98: |
@ShellTerrell dont forget about the almight $ #edchat |
5:15 pm |
rliberni: |
@ShellTerrell for some teachers it's a jobsworth #edchat |
5:15 pm |
vanessacassie: |
I think ed reform at primary and secondary levels has limits based on post-secondary institution structure #edchat |
5:15 pm |
boundstaffpress: |
RT @swalker2 teachers need 2 get on the front lines themselves. starting 2 believe that 1 of us is going 2 have 2 run 4 office #edchat |
5:15 pm |
ShellTerrell: |
With the wide achievement gap & my experience in working w/ at risk students does show the system broken for many #edchat |
5:16 pm |
StarrMatica: |
Difficulty with admin showing increased test scores. All learning is not measured by a test, but decisions are made on this basis. #edchat |
5:16 pm |
JasonFlom: |
@elanaleoni No doubt. Reform is born of hope 4 something better. Tchr's embued w/ mountains of hope - for students & future, I think #edchat |
5:16 pm |
MrR0g3rs: |
@ShellTerrell it is the layers of the system that r built to protect the wrong people. tenure, unions, high stakes assessment #edchat |
5:16 pm |
infodivabronx: |
RT @ShellTerrell: What are the greatest barriers to edu reform?Is it really that tchrs are apathetic or they have no support? #edchat <both |
5:16 pm |
vanessacassie: |
Tech is a great tool to help with ed reform...have to educate tchrs and admin that it only enhances practice, not fix it #edchat |
5:16 pm |
rliberni: |
RT @MrR0g3rs: @rliberni its because the system is set up to protect the wrong people & policies #edchat |
5:16 pm |
teachingwthsoul: |
@vanessacassie I always worked to provide a new teacher boot camp at my school. This is critical. DuFour/Eaker Chapt 8-9 #edchat |
5:16 pm |
jgmac1106: |
I also find reform tough in school when the shelf life of principals and superintendents is shorter than the mangoes I just bought #edchat |
5:16 pm |
jennar: |
really exciting conversation and real examples of how Educators are working to further educational reform. Follow #edchat |
5:16 pm |
olafelch: |
@jgmac1106 Assessing reform can take time, and isn't always easy to see from the classroom. #edchat |
5:16 pm |
rliberni: |
RT @openstudy: @rliberni reform ='s greater efficiency, more educated students, and better schools. The question is how? #edchat |
5:16 pm |
sudam09: |
In India Unlettered people are coming to the legislature and unfortunately they head ministries. This is not good for education. #edchat |
5:16 pm |
akamrt: |
@MrR0g3rs #edchat It is interesting that TX & AK have both resisted the psuedo-reform of RttT. Tchrs should lrn to write reform policy. |
5:16 pm |
tomwhitby: |
@hadleyjf Sitting in my den in Sayville NY #edchat |
5:16 pm |
ShellTerrell: |
Most of the poorest students have no access to equal education opportunities so for them poverty cycle continues #edchat |
5:16 pm |
vanessacassie: |
@StarrMatica True w/regards to tests, but small minority of students go on to ed/work that requires high stakes test taking #edchat |
5:17 pm |
swalker2: |
We're snding mixed signals - tchrs 2 b eval on test scores (competition) yet they wnt techrs 2 collaborate 4 gr8er gd of the skool #edchat |
5:17 pm |
openstudy: |
@ShellTerrell understanding educational reform: http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0309/20487.html #edchat |
5:17 pm |
vanessacassie: |
@teachingwthsoul That's a great idea! We need more support like that. #edchat |
5:17 pm |
bealup: |
Aha...so this is the other #edchat time! I usually participate in the later one! Will move on to Tweetchat |
5:17 pm |
rliberni: |
@openstudy money spent in the right way for the right reasons with the right input is how - eutopia? #edchat |
5:17 pm |
ShellTerrell: |
RT @MrR0g3rs: it is the layers of the system that r built to protect the wrong people. tenure, unions, high stakes assessment #edchat |
5:17 pm |
esolcourses: |
@msmithpds agree up to a point, though IME government directives/cost considerations seem to carry more weight than other factors #edchat |
5:17 pm |
akamrt: |
@olafelch #edchat SME? |
5:17 pm |
rliberni: |
RT @olafelch: @jgmac1106 Assessing reform can take time, and isn't always easy to see from the classroom. #edchat |
5:17 pm |
jeanbont: |
teacher collaboration should be a big part of reform. #edchat |
5:17 pm |
JasonFlom: |
@franze98 You make a good point. How can tchrs find their way to table w/out the funds to push change and scare policy makers. #edchat |
5:17 pm |
acmcdonaldgp: |
I don't think tchrs moral obligation is to reform. I think it is to continually improve. Our job in classes is to focus on instr'n #edchat |
5:17 pm |
olafelch: |
RT @ShellTerrell: Most of the poorest students have no access to equal education opportunities so for them poverty cycle continues #edchat |
5:17 pm |
ShellTerrell: |
RT @rliberni: for some teachers it's a jobsworth #edchat |
5:17 pm |
jennar: |
RT @ShellTerrell: Why does it have to fall on the teachers? Isn't edu reform more powerful if all stakeholders are involved? #edchat |
5:17 pm |
TEFL: |
RT @ShellTerrell: Most of the poorest students have no access to equal education opportunities so for them poverty cycle continues #edchat |
5:17 pm |
rliberni: |
RT @jennar: really exciting conversation and real examples of how Educators are working to further educational reform. Follow #edchat |
5:17 pm |
sudam09: |
Administration shuould facilitate rather than regulate as far as education is concerned. #edchat |
5:18 pm |
hadleyjf: |
@tomwhitby Was just looking for your thoughts #edchat |
5:18 pm |
TallGamer: |
What type of reform or we talking about here? Tech in the class teaching methods are the kit and kaboodle? #edchat |
5:18 pm |
1ernesto1: |
Maybe if we teach or show Edu2.0 to Parents, they wont buy any Edu1.0 from Schools1.0, then the schools admin would change... #edchat |
5:18 pm |
olafelch: |
@akamrt SME= Subject Matter Expert #edchat |
5:18 pm |
vanessacassie: |
RT @swalker2 We're snding mixed signals-tchrs 2 b eval on tst scors (competition) yet they wnt tchrs 2 collaborate 4 gd of the skool #edchat |
5:18 pm |
ShellTerrell: |
RT @openstudy: @ShellTerrell understanding educational reform: http://bit.ly/d83ARC #edchat |
5:18 pm |
akamrt: |
@olafelch #edchat I disagree. Tchrs are and should be experts in the identification of, development of, and implementation of change. |
5:18 pm |
rliberni: |
RT @jeanbont: teacher collaboration should be a big part of reform. #edchat |
5:18 pm |
jpsteltz: |
ed reform also depends upon the demographics of the school district...right? #edchat |
5:18 pm |
openstudy: |
Love your answer Berni! RT @rliberni money spent in the right way for the right reasons with the right input is how - eutopia? #edchat |
5:19 pm |
ShellTerrell: |
RT @1ernesto1: Maybe if we teach or show Edu2.0 to Parents, they wont buy any Edu1.0 fr Schools then admin would change... #edchat |
5:19 pm |
vanessacassie: |
@bealup Welcome! Sometimes the mid-day chats are easier to mentally contribute to than the later one...lol #edchat |
5:19 pm |
Parentella: |
Looking forward to a great #edchat today! -Amanda |
5:19 pm |
akamrt: |
@acmcdonaldgp #edchat Isn't a tchrs role in the classroom to focus on learning? |
5:19 pm |
Parentella: |
@jennar Yes it is more powerful if all parties are involved. Together we must bring edu into the new era. #Edchat |
5:19 pm |
teachingwthsoul: |
@ShellTerrell Big stuff happening at Claremont GU in Cali. Breaking the Cycle of Poverty. Teacher Ed there is focused on this piece. #edchat |
5:19 pm |
sudam09: |
RT @TEFL: @ShellTerrell: poorest students have no access 2 equal education opportunities so 4 them poverty cycle continues #edchat agree |
5:19 pm |
olafelch: |
@akamrt Maybe they should be. But most of them aren't. #edchat |
5:19 pm |
jgmac1106: |
@olafelch No progress insteasy 2 to see but reform on any level should be measured even if its tchrs reflecting on their practice. #edchat |
5:19 pm |
StarrMatica: |
RT@vanessacassie:Minority of students go to ed/work that requires high stakes test True Test focus creates stumbling block to reform.#edchat |
5:19 pm |
vanessacassie: |
Does reform need to be a 'one-size-fits-all' solution, or on a case-by-case need? Some tchrs are doing excellent work all the time #edchat |
5:19 pm |
TallGamer: |
Is there a national venue for educators to mobilize and take action?Something like #edchat but with no technical barrier to reach more tchrs |
5:20 pm |
elanaleoni: |
@acmcdonaldgp Parents should definitely be a part of edu reform. I just haven't seen many do so. Any examples out there? #edchat |
5:20 pm |
rliberni: |
RT @ShellTerrell: RT @openstudy: @ShellTerrell understanding educational reform: http://bit.ly/d83ARC #edchat |
5:20 pm |
Parentella: |
@1ernesto1 You got it right. Parents are the beginning of the cycle. They choose the board members as well as admins. #EDCHAT |
5:20 pm |
rliberni: |
RT @jpsteltz: ed reform also depends upon the demographics of the school district...right? expand? #edchat |
5:20 pm |
rliberni: |
RT @Parentella: @jennar Yes it is more powerful if all parties are involved. Together we must bring edu into the new era. #Edchat #edchat |
5:20 pm |
ShellTerrell: |
RT @elanaleoni: @acmcdonaldgp Parents should definitely be a part of edu reform. I just haven't seen many do so. Any examples? #edchat |
5:20 pm |
vanessacassie: |
@jpsteltz Demographics have the biggest role with regards to parent support #edchat |
5:20 pm |
akamrt: |
@olafelch #edchat Which begs the question, "Where is the gap originating from?" My posit = lack of teacher autonomy to be change agents. |
5:20 pm |
m_yam: |
@olafelch Yes, finding the time IS a problem. #edchat |
5:20 pm |
fredsheahan: |
There are different ways to contribute to educational reform; Edu needs community organizer leadership. #edchat |
5:21 pm |
franze98: |
@JasonFlom yeah the biggest change happening in IL schools is downsizing due to lack of state payments #Edchat |
5:21 pm |
olafelch: |
@Parentella Not in most parts of the world. #edchat |
5:21 pm |
jgmac1106: |
Barak Obama: "I am a firm believer most important thing you learn in school is learning 2 learn." Need reform to reach this goal #edchat |
5:21 pm |
acmcdonaldgp: |
@elanaleoni I've seen change happen on a micro level when a group of parents gets focused....need it to happen on larger scale #edchat |
5:21 pm |
MrR0g3rs: |
@akamrt yes. a teachers job is 2 important to seriously pursue policy change, yet they have 2 deal w/ consequenses #edchat |
5:21 pm |
ShellTerrell: |
RT @sudam09: In India there is clear education division and richer get good education while poor people suffer. #edchat |
5:21 pm |
ShellTerrell: |
RT @vanessacassie: @jpsteltz Demographics have the biggest role with regards to parent support #edchat |
5:21 pm |
vanessacassie: |
How do we measure educational success? IMO, teachers with all different teaching/assess styles can be 'good' for students #edchat |
5:21 pm |
openstudy: |
RT @rliberni RT @ShellTerrell: RT @openstudy: understanding educational reform: http://bit.ly/d83ARC #edchat |
5:21 pm |
JaneBalvanz: |
Barriers to education reform: the Big Picture including the politics of it. Who decides what needs to be reformed and why? #edchat |
5:21 pm |
teachingwthsoul: |
@akamrt No...read the research. So much out there on this topic . Must be a collaboration! #edchat |
5:22 pm |
Parentella: |
@olafelch You are right but they are a very powerful party nonetheless. #Edchat |
5:22 pm |
akamrt: |
@MrR0g3rs #edchat Right. If change occurred in fiscal thinking, for instance repurposing money used to sustain the status quo into change. |
5:22 pm |
acmcdonaldgp: |
@JasonFlom I agree. Teachers can help lead reform. Teachers are the primary conduit to parents. We need that connection. #edchat |
5:22 pm |
ShellTerrell: |
RT @akamrt: @olafelch #edchat Which begs the ?, "Where is the gap originating fr?" My posit = lack of teacher autonomy to be change agents. |
5:22 pm |
sudam09: |
@TallGamer Now w/ internet n social media have provided a virtual platform & #edchat is but such a platform. Things R changing. #edchat |
5:22 pm |
juleach: |
@rliberni Actually, I think ed reform depends on the beliefs of the teachers in the school district. #edchat |
5:22 pm |
rliberni: |
as a parent I feel often that I am superfluous in school #edchat |
5:22 pm |
jgmac1106: |
@openstudy believe the most critical element to all reform begins with high quality creative teaching. Everything..secondary at best #edchat |
5:22 pm |
ShellTerrell: |
RT @fredsheahan: There are different ways to contribute to educational reform; Edu needs community organizer leadership. #edchat |
5:22 pm |
swalker2: |
@JasonFlom I agree refoprm should grow from the bottom up - not come from the top down - 2 many decisions r made that way #edchat |
5:22 pm |
jgmac1106: |
RT @acmcdonaldgp: Silly Q'n maybe but what exactly do we want to reform? Instruction? Curric? Structure? Everything? #edchat A goal might help w/focus. |
5:22 pm |
vanessacassie: |
@JaneBalvanz Ahh the Big Picture issue-necessary, but as a former colleague of mine said, it's not where the "rubber meets the road" #edchat |
5:22 pm |
hadleyjf: |
RT @jgmac1106: Barak Obama: "I am a firm believer most important thing you learn in school is learning 2 learn." Reform 4 this goal #edchat |
5:23 pm |
JaneBalvanz: |
RT @jgmac1106: Barak Obama: "I am a firm believer most important thing you learn in school is learning 2 learn." Need reform to reach this goal #edchat |
5:23 pm |
olafelch: |
@ShellTerrell It's not terribly different in Germany. Gymnasium, Realschule, hauptschule - just a class system. #edchat |
5:23 pm |
ShellTerrell: |
I agree that edu reform involves collaboration of all stakeholders. So how do we begin this collaboration? #edchat |
5:23 pm |
Parentella: |
@vanessacassie Ideally it would be on a case-by-case need, allowing excellent teachers 2 keep doing what they're doing. #edchat -AH |
5:23 pm |
MrR0g3rs: |
@akamrt but i think that 2 many policy makers have a stake in the stus quo #edchat |
5:23 pm |
m_yam: |
@olafelch As someone said, I'd start from my classroom. #edchat |
5:23 pm |
openstudy: |
@jgmac1106 so true... #edchat |
5:23 pm |
rliberni: |
RT @olafelch: @ShellTerrell It's not terribly different in Germany. Gymnasium, Realschule, hauptschule - just a class system. #edchat |
5:23 pm |
sudam09: |
RT @swalker2: @JasonFlom I agree refoprm should grow from the bottom up - not come from the top down - 2 many decisions r made that way #edchat |
5:23 pm |
esolcourses: |
@TEFL @ShellTerrell asylum seekers & refugees hit particularly hard, with UK ESOL funding cuts driving reform in wrong direction #edchat |
5:23 pm |
ckshih: |
RT @jgmac1106: Barak Obama: "I am a firm believer most important thing you learn in school is learning 2 learn." Need reform to reach this goal #edchat |
5:24 pm |
jgmac1106: |
@sudam09 Same thing happens in America except its not in open. Test makers & publishers serve stockholders, contribute 2 elections #edchat |
5:24 pm |
sudam09: |
RT @hadleyjf: RT @jgmac1106: Barak Obama: "I am a firm believer most important thing you learn in school is learning 2 learn." Reform 4 this goal #edchat |
5:24 pm |
Parentella: |
RT @JaneBalvanz: Barriers to education reform: the Big Picture including the politics of it. Who decides what needs to be reformed and why? #edchat |
5:24 pm |
hadleyjf: |
Classroom and faculty rm. RT @m_yam: @olafelch As someone said, Id start from my classroom. #edchat |
5:24 pm |
vanessacassie: |
@Parentella I feel the same way! Let good people do good work, and address issues with the minority that aren't #edchat |
5:24 pm |
juleach: |
@rliberni No matter the demographics, if the teachers believe the kids will succeed!! #edchat |
5:24 pm |
elanaleoni: |
@vanessacassie I think also w/ ed reform, it's so politically driven. It satisfies politicians' in the short term & not educators. #edchat |
5:24 pm |
hurricanemaine: |
@ShellTerrell Yes. If not focusing on reform then not pushing themselves to be better. Other professions reform current practices. #edchat |
5:24 pm |
ShellTerrell: |
Many are asking to focus our goals. What should we reform? Where do we start? #edchat |
5:24 pm |
jpsteltz: |
demo...social class (blue collar/white collar), $, motivation2change, motiv2utilize reform2help r stdts b success outside small comm #edchat |
5:24 pm |
hurricanemaine: |
RT @ShellTerrell: Do we believe all educators should further educational reform? Why? #edchat |
5:24 pm |
akamrt: |
@teachingwthsoul #edchat I was suggesting collaboration - but in a diff flow. Begins w/ tchrs given autonomy by admins who supp innovation. |
5:24 pm |
rliberni: |
@juleach we have school autonomy in theory but in practice there's little room for manoevre #edchat |
5:24 pm |
openstudy: |
RT @jgmac1106 @openstudy the most critical element to reform begins w/ high quality creative teaching. Everything, secondary at best #edchat |
5:25 pm |
ShellTerrell: |
RT @jgmac1106: Barak Obama: "I am a firm believer most important thing you learn in school is learning 2 learn." Reform 4 this goal #edchat |
5:25 pm |
analomba: |
RT @ShellTerrell: RT @vanessacassie: @jpsteltz Demographics and parents... [you mean involvement, not support!] #edchat |
5:25 pm |
olafelch: |
@ShellTerrell Autonomy is great if you are a good teacher - v. bad for the kids if you aren't! #edchat |
5:25 pm |
rliberni: |
RT @ShellTerrell: Many are asking to focus our goals. What should we reform? Where do we start? #edchat |
5:25 pm |
jgmac1106: |
Taking part in #edchat supports educational reform! |
5:25 pm |
akamrt: |
@MrR0g3rs #edchat To many policy makers have been too far away from the reality of school for too long. |
5:25 pm |
jeanbont: |
great chat today, but have to go. Thanks all! #edchat |
5:25 pm |
jpsteltz: |
my blog entry today http://bit.ly/9duhwI dealing w/ some of these topics... #edchat |
5:25 pm |
juleach: |
@rliberni So true!! #edchat |
5:25 pm |
vanessacassie: |
Sometimes policy change can actually cloud ppl's focus on improving tching...meetings, agendas, etc. #edchat |
5:25 pm |
rliberni: |
RT @olafelch: @ShellTerrell Autonomy is great if you are a good teacher - v. bad for the kids if you aren't! #edchat |
5:25 pm |
hadleyjf: |
RT @acmcdonaldgp: @hat exactly do we want to reform? Instruction? Curric? Structure? Everything? A goal might help w/focus. #edchat |
5:25 pm |
bcinfrance: |
Oops I thought this #edchat was going to be about prior knowledge gleaned from Internet -- guess I didn't go to the right place to look! |
5:26 pm |
m_yam: |
RT @rliberni: RT @ShellTerrell: Many are asking to focus our goals. What should we reform? Where do we start? #edchat |
5:26 pm |
vanessacassie: |
@analomba Involvement and support -- not necessarily tied to financial demographics, but societal view of tchrs and ed #edchat |
5:26 pm |
ShellTerrell: |
@olafelch Great point! LOL #edchat |
5:26 pm |
rliberni: |
It's about putting the children/students at the centre and going out from there #edchat |
5:26 pm |
jpsteltz: |
Yes RT @analomba: RT @ShellTerrell: RT @vanessacassie: @jpsteltz Demographics and parents... [you mean involvement, not support!] #edchat |
5:26 pm |
vanessacassie: |
@bcinfrance Probably going to be the topic for the later edchat if it "won" the poll #edchat |
5:26 pm |
StarrMatica: |
RT @akamrt: @MrR0g3rs #edchat To many policy makers have been too far away from the reality of school for too long. |
5:26 pm |
openstudy: |
@jgmac1106 This is high quality creative teaching: http://bit.ly/cUhIti @thenerdyteacher's latest blog post is fantastic #edchat |
5:26 pm |
esolcourses: |
RT @olafelch @ShellTerrell Autonomy is great if you are a good teacher - v. bad for the kids if you aren't! #edchat |
5:26 pm |
akamrt: |
#edchat Tchrs are required to support polkicy (good or bad) after never being invited to devl table. Don't we trust tchrs? It seems so. |
5:26 pm |
olafelch: |
@m_yam I started in my own classroom - it has been a war with the authorities ever since! Not for the faint-hearted. #edchat |
5:27 pm |
hadleyjf: |
RT @olafelch: @ShellTerrell Autonomy is great if you are a good teacher - v. bad for the kids if you aren't! #edchat |
5:27 pm |
ShellTerrell: |
RT @allofek12: reform should base on sts needs #edchat || I agree but many tchrs still lecturing & not listening |
5:27 pm |
jpsteltz: |
RT @vanessacassie: Sometimes policy change can actually cloud ppl's focus on improving tching...meetings, agendas, etc. #edchat |
5:27 pm |
analomba: |
RT @hadleyjf: Classroom and faculty rm. RT @m_yam: @olafelch As someone said, Id start from my classroom. #edchat |
5:27 pm |
Parentella: |
@ShellTerrell Is it beneficial 2have a "brain-trust" grp including teachers/parents/admins working on reform n ea indiv. school?-AH #edchat |
5:27 pm |
m_yam: |
@ShellTerrell RT @jgmac1106: Barak Obama: "I am a firm believer most important thing you learn in school is learning 2 learn." ... #edchat |
5:27 pm |
swalker2: |
We need to reform our goal of education first - agree on what that is - and then get into the details #edchat |
5:27 pm |
pkolenick: |
RT @ShellTerrell: RT @fredsheahan: There are different ways to contribute to educational reform; Edu needs community organizer leadership. #edchat |
5:27 pm |
adambellow: |
Happy #TeacherTuesday Everyone - Check out www.eduTecher.net and our FREE iPhone App for 900+ Web tools for #edtech #education #edchat |
5:27 pm |
rliberni: |
RT @StarrMatica: RT @akamrt: @MrR0g3rs yes,To many policy makers have been too far away from the reality of school for too long. #edchat |
5:27 pm |
ShellTerrell: |
@bcinfrance That is the 7pm EST/ 12 am GMT one #edchat |
5:27 pm |
elanaleoni: |
@jeanbont Educator collaboration is key to successful edu reform #edchat |
5:27 pm |
jgmac1106: |
@acmcdonaldgp Focusing on my classroom, doing whats right for my students and instrction reqs me to be involved in reform #edchat |
5:28 pm |
ShellTerrell: |
RT @Parentella: Is it beneficial 2have a "brain-trust" grp including tchrs/parents/admins working on reform n ea indiv. school?-AH #edchat |
5:28 pm |
vanessacassie: |
How important is it to look at requiring admin to have formal management training before implementing reform? #edchat |
5:28 pm |
fredsheahan: |
Need broader collaborations between passionate stakeholders; teachers, staff, parents, admins, students & policy mkers. #edchat |
5:28 pm |
ShellTerrell: |
@Parentella What a great idea! #edchat |
5:28 pm |
Parentella: |
@VanessaCassie Yes, but I fear there in lies the problem. How do we chafe the minority from the majority?-AH #edchat |
5:28 pm |
akamrt: |
@StarrMatica #edchat Additionally, most have never worked in the field, yet are willing to prescriptively require their idea of reform. |
5:28 pm |
hadleyjf: |
I agree. Collaboration between all invested parties RT @ShellTerrell: @Parentella What a great idea! #edchat |
5:28 pm |
Litland: |
@web20classroom Yes but at the root of it all don't they need to be critical thinkers? #edchat www.litland.com |
5:28 pm |
juleach: |
RT @swalker2: We need to reform our goal of education first - agree on what that is - and then get into the details #edchat |
5:29 pm |
franze98: |
learning to learn at school. i dont think most kids can understand the concept & get frustrated by the textbook #edchat |
5:29 pm |
DoremiGirl: |
@hadleyjf: Is there a way to revive t love of lrning & tching?#edchat I love your question, but are we assuming tchrs had the love to start? |
5:29 pm |
rliberni: |
@fredsheahan I think passionate is the keyword here, not what will get me elected, or what will be easiest etc.. #edchat |
5:29 pm |
frankcrawford: |
@ShellTerrell Start with vision and leadership. See page 4 onwards in: http://tinyurl.com/yhg9fda. #edchat |
5:29 pm |
rliberni: |
RT @juleach: RT @swalker2: We need to reform our goal of education first - agree on what that is - and then get into the details #edchat |
5:29 pm |
ToughLoveforX: |
RT @DoremiGirl: @hadleyjf: Is there a way to revive t love of lrning & tching?#edchat I love your question, but are we assuming tchrs had the love to start? |
5:29 pm |
rliberni: |
RT @frankcrawford: @ShellTerrell Start with vision and leadership. See page 4 onwards in: http://tinyurl.com/yhg9fda. #edchat |
5:29 pm |
JasonFlom: |
True, true. RT @acmcdonaldgp: Teachers can help lead reform. Teachers are the primary conduit to parents. We need that connection. #edchat |
5:29 pm |
bcinfrance: |
@VanessaCassie Thanks Vanessa, I thought it was the same topic at two different times. Prefer the other but won't stay up 'til 1am! #edchat |
5:29 pm |
olafelch: |
@elanaleoni Agreed. Collaboration essential, but means convincing a hell of a lot of people 2 change the way they do things. #edchat |
5:29 pm |
elanaleoni: |
@jgmac1106 Very true but in order to teach kids how to learn, we need to teach 21st cent skills. #edchat |
5:29 pm |
Litland: |
@web20classroom (con't) schools now run by generation who missed out on a classics education, don't you think? #edchat |
5:29 pm |
esolcourses: |
@olafelch @ShellTerrell good teachers will always find a way; downside is, bad systems can drive good teachers out of profession #edchat |
5:29 pm |
jpsteltz: |
VeryRT @vanessacassie: How important is it to look at requiring admin to have formal management training before implementing reform? #edchat |
5:29 pm |
ShellTerrell: |
Lots of exciting things! Let's spread this passion! Let's make #vanmeter 's energy viral #edchat |
5:30 pm |
boundstaffpress: |
RT @Litland: At the root of it all don't they need to be critical thinkers? #edchat www.litland.com |
5:30 pm |
ShellTerrell: |
RT @rliberni: @fredsheahan I think passionate is the keyword here, not what will get me elected, or what will be easiest etc.. #edchat |
5:30 pm |
JaneBalvanz: |
RT @ShellTerrell: RT @Parentella: Is it beneficial 2have a "brain-trust" grp including tchrs/parents/admins working on reform n ea indiv. school?-AH #edchat |
5:30 pm |
hadleyjf: |
@DoremiGirl Ouch! I think I will try the Pollyanna response! Yes! #edchat |
5:30 pm |
m_yam: |
RT @Litland: @web20classroom Yes but at the root of it all don't they need to be critical thinkers? #edchat www.litland.com |
5:30 pm |
ShellTerrell: |
RT @franze98: learning to learn at school. i dont think most kids can understand the concept & get frustrated by the textbook #edchat |
5:30 pm |
StarrMatica: |
@akamrt So true. Should be a requirement to spend significant time in a classroom before working on reform. #edchat |
5:30 pm |
vanessacassie: |
I believe that parents should be involved, as stakeholders, but isn't the problem w/society is no trust/faith in professional tchrs? #edchat |
5:30 pm |
rliberni: |
@frankcrawford I agree, passion, vision, drive to have everybody succeed should be at the heart #edchat |
5:30 pm |
rliberni: |
RT @boundstaffpress: RT @Litland: At the root of it all don't they need to be critical thinkers? #edchat www.litland.com |
5:30 pm |
ToughLoveforX: |
RT @Litland @web20classroom at the root don't they need to be critical thinkers? #edchat www.litland.com | R admins critical thinkers? |
5:30 pm |
acmcdonaldgp: |
Central admin need it. School admin need 2 be predisposed to action to implement reform RT @vanessacassie: re: admin mgmt training #edchat |
5:31 pm |
boundstaffpress: |
RT @acmcdonaldgp Focusing on my classroom, doing whats right for my students and instrction reqs me to be involved in reform #edchat |
5:31 pm |
jgmac1106: |
@MicheleBlueston like education Most extinction are due to host of environmental factors. Evolution reqs dealing w/ adversity #edchat |
5:31 pm |
m_yam: |
RT @jgmac1106: @acmcdonaldgp Focusing on my classroom, doing whats right for my students and instrction reqs me to be involved in reform #edchat |
5:31 pm |
Parentella: |
@fredsheahan Absolutely agree. SO important to collaborate with each other to create a system that works. -AH #edchat |
5:31 pm |
DoremiGirl: |
@hadleyjf I certainly hope the love is the reason people start teaching...but #edchat |
5:31 pm |
akamrt: |
#edchat Military analogy. The front line knows what is needed & calls in support from rear. Tchrs know needed change call in admins who supp |
5:31 pm |
JasonFlom: |
@elanaleoni I wonder though, r "21st century skills" really that different from learning how to learn--critical, creative curiosity? #edchat |
5:31 pm |
paulbrichardson: |
RT @rliberni: as a parent I feel often that I am superfluous in school #edchat. [Me too] |
5:31 pm |
ShellTerrell: |
If we are always disagreeing & never doing then that becomes a problem too! #edchat we eventually need to take the step |
5:31 pm |
jgmac1106: |
RT @ShellTerrell: Many are asking to focus our goals. What should we reform? Where do we start? #edchat |
5:31 pm |
StarrMatica: |
For policy makers, it all comes back to showing progress. Should we focus on authentic measurable assessments first to drive change? #edchat |
5:31 pm |
fredsheahan: |
@rliberni exactly. Stakeholders need to feel like they're involved in the process and have something to gain. #edchat |
5:31 pm |
rliberni: |
this might be contriversial but there are policy makers who are failed teachers! #edchat |
5:31 pm |
vanessacassie: |
@acmcdonaldgp Re: admin training - I agree. I've seen some admin that were great tchrs, but have no business mngment experience #edchat |
5:31 pm |
ShellTerrell: |
RT @esolcourses: good teachers will always find a way; downside is, bad systems can drive good teachers out of profession #edchat |
5:32 pm |
ShellTerrell: |
RT @rliberni: RT @frankcrawford: @ShellTerrell Start with vision and leadership. See page 4 onwards in: http://tinyurl.com/yhg9fda. #edchat |
5:32 pm |
analomba: |
@VanessaCassie Demography and educational views can be another topic of discussion in the future :) #edchat |
5:32 pm |
elanaleoni: |
@olafelch LOL. Very true. Imagine if all #edchat participants worked in the same school. Imagine what we could accomplish. |
5:32 pm |
acmcdonaldgp: |
@DoremiGirl I think for education reform to have a chance we must make the assumption all tchrs have love of the process to start. #edchat |
5:32 pm |
rliberni: |
RT @ShellTerrell: If we are always disagreeing & never doing then that becomes a problem too! #edchat we eventually need to take the step |
5:32 pm |
boundstaffpress: |
RT @ShellTerrell: Lots of exciting things! Let's spread this passion! Let's make #vanmeter 's energy viral #edchat |
5:32 pm |
m_yam: |
RT @esolcourses: @olafelch @ShellTerrell good teachers will always find a way; downside is, bad systems can drive good teachers out of profession #edchat |
5:32 pm |
DoremiGirl: |
#edchat I think all of us at #educon felt that passion & love for students, our field was why we were there. |
5:32 pm |
olafelch: |
@ShellTerrell As they say at Nike, "Just do it!" #edchat |
5:32 pm |
hadleyjf: |
If you had to choose one action to make your school better for the students, what would it be? Are you willing to try it? #edchat |
5:32 pm |
ShellTerrell: |
RT @elanaleoni: @olafelch LOL. Very true. Imagine if all #edchat participants worked in the same school. Imagine what we could accomplish. |
5:32 pm |
jgmac1106: |
@ShellTerrell I think tchrs should start at curricular level (see last weeks #edchat) transcript while building capacity and cmty of lnrs |
5:32 pm |
vanessacassie: |
@analomba Lol - you're right! It's a totally separate topic/debate #edchat |
5:32 pm |
ShellTerrell: |
RT @acmcdonaldgp: I think for edu reform to have a chance we must make the assumption all tchrs have love of the process to start. #edchat |
5:33 pm |
akamrt: |
@StarrMatica Even easier, bring in educts to dev policy and plan change model. Would they call a brain surgeon to fix car ignition? #edchat |
5:33 pm |
rliberni: |
any talk of reform has to be a two way, or many way street #edchat |
5:33 pm |
JasonFlom: |
@swalker2 oops premature return pressing #edchat. . . |
5:33 pm |
ShellTerrell: |
RT @rliberni: this might be contriversial but there are policy makers who are failed teachers! #edchat |
5:33 pm |
boundstaffpress: |
@Litland I am part of the gen. that missed classic education. I wish I could go back. So much missed. #edchat |
5:33 pm |
jgmac1106: |
RT @elemveee: how do we reconcile reality of "testing culture" w/ desire 4 imaginative, purposeful teaching? #oetc10 #edchat |
5:33 pm |
TallGamer: |
@sudam09 Yes but my concerns are that some teachers who are not technical enough may not be able to use #edchat or other tech platforms |
5:33 pm |
ShellTerrell: |
RT @paulbrichardson: RT @rliberni: as a parent I feel often that I am superfluous in school #edchat. [Me too] |
5:33 pm |
olafelch: |
@elanaleoni We would probably break the world record for the longest staff meeting! #edchat |
5:33 pm |
elanaleoni: |
@ShellTerrell You start with baby steps and make sure there's open communication b/w all stakeholders. #edchat |
5:33 pm |
vanessacassie: |
Long-term planning is essential, but can sometimes stall, leading to a dragged-out ed reform process that frustrates many #edchat |
5:33 pm |
Parentella: |
@ShellTerrell I can honestly say I kno many ppl locally who would workhard n group like that.Everyone is invested ntheir children-AH #edchat |
5:33 pm |
acmcdonaldgp: |
@vanessacassie perhaps the lack of trust in prof. teachers is because of limited meaningful collaboration betw. groups? #edchat |
5:33 pm |
akamrt: |
@JasonFlom #edchat Probably not - the context and application may be sig diff though. |
5:33 pm |
JasonFlom: |
@swalker2 Somehow there needs 2 be collaborative (equaliateral) triangle of reform: 1. policy makers 2. public/media 3. admin/tchrs #edchat |
5:34 pm |
rliberni: |
RT @jgmac1106: RT @elemveee: how do we reconcile reality of "testing culture" w/ desire 4 imaginative, purposeful teaching? #oetc10 #edchat |
5:34 pm |
bt_123: |
#edchat I think all of us at #educon felt that passion |
5:34 pm |
sudam09: |
@akamrt Fiscal consideration is there of course but mechanism should be evolved for thoughtful allocation. #edchat |
5:34 pm |
Parentella: |
@hadleyjf Absolutely! #edchat -AH |
5:34 pm |
franze98: |
@akamrt & when support fails on their end, arnt most teachers too scared to take problem 2 next level 4 fear of job? #edchat |
5:34 pm |
vanessacassie: |
@acmcdonaldgp Maybe, but IMO tchrs aren't viewed with the same degree of respect as doctors, engineers, etc. #edchat |
5:34 pm |
rliberni: |
RT @sudam09: @akamrt Fiscal consideration is there of course but mechanism should be evolved for thoughtful allocation. #edchat |
5:34 pm |
ShellTerrell: |
RT @akamrt: #edchat Military analogy. Frontline knows needs calls in support fr rear. Tchrs know needed change call in admins 4 supp |
5:34 pm |
rliberni: |
RT @franze98: @akamrt & when support fails on their end, arnt most teachers too scared to take problem 2 next level 4 fear of job? #edchat |
5:34 pm |
fredsheahan: |
Reform movements start small and gain momentum. Not everyone is ready to make the initial waves. Narratives can inspire others. #edchat |
5:35 pm |
m_yam: |
RT @ShellTerrell: RT @elanaleoni: @olafelch LOL. Very true. Imagine if all #edchat participants worked in the same school. Imagine what we could accomplish. |
5:35 pm |
boundstaffpress: |
Wouldn't admin love it if every teacher had a list of reforms that had worked in their classroom? #edchat |
5:35 pm |
akamrt: |
@sudam09 Oft times tchrs are never part of budget planning - yet they know what they need. Again, we need greater tchr autonomy. #edchat |
5:35 pm |
msmithpds: |
how do we reconcile reality of "testing culture" w/ desire 4 imaginative, purposeful teaching? - We revamp the testing expectations #edchat |
5:35 pm |
ShellTerrell: |
RT @elanaleoni: @ShellTerrell You start with baby steps and make sure there's open communication b/w all stakeholders. #edchat |
5:35 pm |
elanaleoni: |
RT @jgmac1106: Taking part in #edchat supports educational reform! |
5:35 pm |
briancsmith: |
@VanessaCassie Trust/faith must be earned. Closed classrooms/learning makes it difficult to earn that trust/faith. #edchat |
5:35 pm |
ShellTerrell: |
RT @ToughLoveforX: @jgmac1106 RT @ShellTerrell: My $.02 make sure teachers and students have time to think and do. #edchat |
5:35 pm |
vanessacassie: |
LOL! Loving the discussions that I'm 'eavesdropping' re: all of us edchatters teaching in the same school! #edchat |
5:35 pm |
olafelch: |
@sudam09 Most of the reforms don't need extra funding - they need new thinking. #edchat |
5:35 pm |
acmcdonaldgp: |
@hadleyjf My one action would be to ensure effective instructional practices (planning, q'ning, student-centered instr. etc) #edchat |
5:35 pm |
msmithpds: |
kinda interesting how using web 2.0 deals with improving one's values - with digital footprints and all #edchat |
5:35 pm |
ShellTerrell: |
RT @juleach: Actually, I think they have forgotten how to learn. Students are used to being "fed" the information. #edchat |
5:35 pm |
rliberni: |
@fredsheahan youo are right, this is a good start don't you think? #edchat |
5:35 pm |
ShellTerrell: |
RT @jgmac1106: I think tchrs should start at curricular level (see last weeks #edchat) transcript while building capacity and cmty of lnrs |
5:35 pm |
ToughLoveforX: |
@olafelch @elanaleoni the world record for the longest staff meeting! #edchat How about no more meetings and #edchat instead? |
5:35 pm |
JasonFlom: |
@akamrt True. true. Change is the one constant throughout history. We've just seen a lion's share of it in last 20 yrs. #edchat |
5:35 pm |
rliberni: |
RT @elanaleoni: RT @jgmac1106: Taking part in #edchat supports educational reform! |
5:35 pm |
sudam09: |
Politcians should be asked to allocate their social funds randomly out of their constituency so that vote politics can be minimised. #edchat |
5:36 pm |
ShellTerrell: |
RT @olafelch: As they say at Nike, "Just do it!" #edchat |
5:36 pm |
vanessacassie: |
I think maybe the issue with ed reform is that what works for one tchr/grp of students doesn't work for the next tch/grp of stdents #edchat |
5:36 pm |
jpsteltz: |
@VanessaCassie i agree that survival mode is an extreme hurdle to get over #edchat |
5:36 pm |
openstudy: |
Reform happens on many levels: government, school boards, philanthropic, deans, teachers, and finally students #edchat |
5:36 pm |
StarrMatica: |
@akamrt Yes the best solution How do we make sure it is "superstar" teachers? What if we had a process to elect peer representatives?#edchat |
5:36 pm |
msmithpds: |
WOOT! comment of the day! RT @olafelch: @sudam09 Most of the reforms don't need extra funding - they need new thinking. #edchat |
5:36 pm |
JasonFlom: |
gotta go and be with my students. Party on #edchat. Had a blast! Y'all rock. |
5:36 pm |
frankcrawford: |
@tomwhitby In 12 yrs we'll have 'iTunesU' 4 whole school curriculum? So why go to school? Same reason as now, less the didactic bit. #edchat |
5:36 pm |
esolcourses: |
RT @olafelch @sudam09 Most of the reforms don't need extra funding - they need new thinking. #edchat ] agree! |
5:36 pm |
vanessacassie: |
I gotta cut this edchat short today! Thanks PLN! It's given me a lot to think about! #edchat |
5:36 pm |
akamrt: |
@franze98 #edchat Yes they r & also they are the 1s blamed for failed reform. Best way to reform sch? Shut it down for a year a rethink it. |
5:36 pm |
daveandcori: |
CNN Brkng news: Medcl journal Lancet fully retracts 1998 study linking MMR vaccine to autism-says "incorrect" elements of research. #edchat |
5:37 pm |
olafelch: |
RT @acmcdonaldgp:My 1 action wld be 2 ensure effective instructional practice planning, q'ning, student-centered instr. etc #edchat |
5:37 pm |
acmcdonaldgp: |
@VanessaCassie I wonder why that is? Is it because of their experiences in school compared to their experiences w/doctors/etc.? #edchat |
5:37 pm |
rliberni: |
RT @openstudy: Reform happens on many levels: government, school boards, philanthropic, deans, teachers, and finally students #edchat |
5:37 pm |
jgmac1106: |
At federal level I believe in competitive grants, support 4 community centered schools in low SES area, prison reform #edchat |
5:37 pm |
msmithpds: |
@vanessacassie but now it is so much easier to differentiate what edu reform is for teachers - so many diff things to try #edchat |
5:37 pm |
StarrMatica: |
RT @jpsteltz: @VanessaCassie i agree that survival mode is an extreme hurdle to get over #edchat |
5:37 pm |
rliberni: |
@openstudy all these levels are important but I think those at the chalk face are the last to be considered s'times #edchat |
5:37 pm |
paulbrichardson: |
Can we take inspiration from the open source movement? Creativity at the bottom, a little gentle direction at the top..... #edchat |
5:37 pm |
fredsheahan: |
@vanessacassie I agree; I think that reform as a concept should be the support to ALLOW teachers to succeed in different ways #edchat |
5:37 pm |
DoremiGirl: |
RT @ShellTerrell: RT @olafelch: As they say at Nike, "Just do it!" #edchat And think positive! |
5:38 pm |
min_d_j: |
ABSOLUTELY!! RT @msmithpds: > @olafelch: @sudam09 Most of the reforms don't need extra funding - they need new thinking. #edchat |
5:38 pm |
ToughLoveforX: |
@ShellTerrell If teachers can take an hour in the middle of a Tuesday to #edchat , precisely why spend precious time meeting? |
5:38 pm |
akamrt: |
@StarrMatica #edchat The selection would need to be absent political ties. Pols & admins don't select those involved - edu do, at all levels |
5:38 pm |
Parentella: |
@openstudy Agreed, would be great if they all worked together to create a system that works.-AH #edchat |
5:38 pm |
msmithpds: |
@StarrMatica survival mode or comfort mode? #edchat |
5:38 pm |
sudam09: |
@TallGamer Of course internet & technology hav not percolated dn. But ths is vry useful. In India ths is not possible though. #edchat |
5:38 pm |
rliberni: |
@paulbrichardson great analogy, right on! #edchat |
5:39 pm |
akenuam: |
reform must begin within the classroom, we (teachers, schools, parents) must raise our expectations of students #edchat |
5:39 pm |
jgmac1106: |
At state level: high standards for teacher educator insititutions, partenrships w/ state universities & schools, regional coopratn #edchat |
5:39 pm |
ShellTerrell: |
RT @Principal_EL: Correct, bad sys's have driven good tchrs out. Ldrs must b good tchrs & mgrs. Our work is reflected in tchrs work. #edchat |
5:39 pm |
DoremiGirl: |
YES RT@ShellTerrell: @ToughLoveforX: @jgmac1106 RT @ShellTerrell: My $.02 make sure teachers and students have time to think and do. #edchat |
5:39 pm |
acmcdonaldgp: |
@DoremiGirl NP...I understand completely! Change process needs to be understood thoroughly f/change to be successful #edchat |
5:39 pm |
Parentella: |
RT @paulbrichardson: Can we take inspiration from the open source movement? Creativity at the bottom, a little gentle direction at the top..... #edchat |
5:39 pm |
ShellTerrell: |
RT @olafelch: @sudam09 Most of the reforms don't need extra funding - they need new thinking. #edchat |
5:39 pm |
olafelch: |
the biggest issue here is deciding what you want to achieve with the reforms. #edchat |
5:39 pm |
swalker2: |
RT @ShellTerrell: RT @juleach: Actually, I think they have forgotten how to learn. Students are used to being "fed" the information. #edchat |
5:39 pm |
boundstaffpress: |
RT @akenuam: reform must begin within the classroom, we (teachers, schools, parents) must raise our expectations of students #edchat |
5:39 pm |
StarrMatica: |
@msmithpds Both! Have to do and Have always done. #edchat |
5:39 pm |
openstudy: |
@rliberni to give you hope. Reform on the local level: http://bit.ly/djY8Cx #edchat |
5:39 pm |
rliberni: |
RT @akenuam: reform must begin within the classroom, we (teachers, schools, parents) must raise our expectations of students #edchat |
5:39 pm |
rpetersmauri: |
RT @teromakotero: Distance education for parents of children with autism found effective - http://bit.ly/aceYWn #autism #eLearn #edchat |
5:39 pm |
m_yam: |
RT @vanessacassie I think maybe the issue with ed reform is that what works for one tchr/grp of students doesn't work for the nex .. #edchat |
5:39 pm |
timesed: |
From a press perspective, one role teachers can play is challenging politicians? school myths #edchat http://bit.ly/autjsZ |
5:40 pm |
msmithpds: |
can't wait to see what these children expect out of testing when they are adults - will that help the reform? #edchat |
5:40 pm |
ShellTerrell: |
@olafelch You're on a hotstreak today my dear keep it coming! #edchat |
5:40 pm |
rliberni: |
RT @olafelch: the biggest issue here is deciding what you want to achieve with the reforms. #edchat |
5:40 pm |
msmithpds: |
@rpetersmauri thank you for that link #edchat |
5:40 pm |
acmcdonaldgp: |
Teachers need to be protected in times of change RT @ShellTerrell: RT @Principal_EL: Our work is reflected in tchrs work. #edchat |
5:40 pm |
olafelch: |
@DoremiGirl Agreed. think positive and go deaf when people say no. #edchat |
5:40 pm |
rliberni: |
@openstudy thanks, do I seem so pessimistic? #edchat |
5:40 pm |
ShellTerrell: |
RT @msmithpds: can't wait to see what these children expect out of testing when they are adults - will that help the reform? #edchat |
5:40 pm |
m_yam: |
RT @akenuam: reform must begin within the classroom, we (teachers, schools, parents) must raise our expectations of students #edchat |
5:40 pm |
swalker2: |
RT @ShellTerrell: RT @olafelch: @sudam09 Most of the reforms don't need extra funding - they need new thinking. #edchat |
5:40 pm |
boundstaffpress: |
@ToughLoveforX I would love to replace staff meetings with a #edchat style exchange. Great reform. |
5:41 pm |
jpsteltz: |
Yes...w/out a doubt RT @VanessaCassie: @jpsteltz Demographics have the biggest role with regards to parent support #edchat |
5:41 pm |
ToughLoveforX: |
RT @DoremiGirl: YES RT@ShellTerrell: @ToughLoveforX: @jgmac1106 RT @ShellTerrell: My $.02 make sure teachers and students have time to think and do. #edchat |
5:41 pm |
DoremiGirl: |
Great thinkers you are! Hate to go, but must teach now. #edchat teachers - you're so awesome! You are the change agents! |
5:41 pm |
elanaleoni: |
@paulbrichardson Yes! The open source movement would be gr8 for ed reform. Infuse bottom up creativity into ed reform. #edchat |
5:41 pm |
msmithpds: |
RT @boundstaffpress: @ToughLoveforX I would love to replace staff meetings with a #edchat style exchange. Great reform. |
5:41 pm |
teachingwthsoul: |
RT @akenuam: reform must begin within the classroom, we (teachers, schools, parents) must raise our expectations of students #edchat |
5:41 pm |
jgmac1106: |
RT @olafelch: @DoremiGirl Agreed. think positive and go deaf when people say no. #edchat |
5:41 pm |
olafelch: |
@ShellTerrell Thanks. i put it down to Budvar. (Excellent Czech beer!) #edchat |
5:41 pm |
ShellTerrell: |
RT @DoremiGirl: #edchat I think all of us at #educon felt that passion & love for students, our field was why we were there. |
5:42 pm |
juleach: |
RT @akenuam: reform must begin within the classroom, we (teachers, schools, parents) must raise our expectations of students #edchat |
5:42 pm |
evmaiden: |
ShellTerrell: RT @olafelch: @sudam09 Most of the reforms don't need extra funding - they need new thinking. #edchat |
5:42 pm |
Principal_EL: |
@ShellTerrell Correct..bad systems have driven good tchrs out. Ldrs must be good tchrs & mgrs. Our work is reflected in tchrs wrk #edchat |
5:42 pm |
hadleyjf: |
RT @acmcdonaldgp: @hadleyjf My one action - ensure effective instructional practices (planning, q'ning, student-centered instr. etc) #edchat |
5:42 pm |
rliberni: |
@DoremiGirl thank you for all your gr8 thoughts #teachertuesday #edchat |
5:42 pm |
CHuckeba: |
RT @akenuam: reform must begin within the classroom, we (teachers, schools, parents) must raise our expectations of students #edchat AGREED! |
5:42 pm |
StarrMatica: |
RT @swalker2: Most of the reforms don't need extra funding - they need new thinking. And Time to think and implement practically. #edchat |
5:42 pm |
ToughLoveforX: |
@DoremiGirl So why not do #edchat in the school or classroom to save time? @ShellTerrell |
5:42 pm |
acmcdonaldgp: |
@jpsteltz @VanessaCassie Deomographics matter re: parental involvement, but they are not nec. a barrier. Need creativity to connect #edchat |
5:43 pm |
m_yam: |
RT @msmithpds: RT @boundstaffpress: @ToughLoveforX I would love to replace staff meetings with a #edchat style exchange. Great reform. |
5:43 pm |
ShellTerrell: |
Perhaps what we need is a large virtual meet up where we stir the passion & pass knowledge/ resources of how to make the change #edchat |
5:43 pm |
DoremiGirl: |
@olafelch Yes b/c negativity really eats away at your heart! Stay away from negativity! :-) #edchat |
5:43 pm |
ToughLoveforX: |
RT @msmithpds: RT @boundstaffpress: @ToughLoveforX I would love to replace staff meetings with a #edchat style exchange. Great reform. |
5:43 pm |
CHuckeba: |
We must start the reform at an early age as well. Raise the expectations from the beginning of schooling, don't wait until ms/hs. #edchat |
5:43 pm |
boundstaffpress: |
I'm working this semester to influence my fellow teachers a few at a time to get involved here. #edchat has reformed my best practices. |
5:43 pm |
evmaiden: |
sounds like we need less "reform" a little more "transform" #edchat |
5:43 pm |
hadleyjf: |
@ShellTerrell sign me up if you do it! #edchat |
5:44 pm |
teachingwthsoul: |
RT @ShellTerrell: We need a large virtual meet up where we stir the passion & pass knowledge/ resources of how to make the change #edchat |
5:44 pm |
ShellTerrell: |
RT @ToughLoveforX: @DoremiGirl So why not do #edchat in the school or classroom to save time? |
5:44 pm |
cybraryman1: |
So, how do we convince legislators that we elected to allow teachers, parents and students more of a role in ed reform? #edchat |
5:44 pm |
sudam09: |
RT @CHuckeba: RT @akenuam: reform must begin within the classroom, we (teachers, schools, parents) must raise our expectations of students #edchat AGREED! |
5:44 pm |
Parentella: |
@ShellTerrell Personally that sounds fantastic to me :) #edchat -AH |
5:44 pm |
TallGamer: |
@sudam09 Oh I agree it's very useful but I just wonder how many people don't know about it and thus and can't benefit from it #edchat |
5:44 pm |
ToughLoveforX: |
@msmithpds @boundstaffpress: So what's the hard part "to replace staff meetings with a #edchat style exchange" ? Ain't tech. |
5:44 pm |
akamrt: |
@olafelch #edchat Can you decide what you want to achieve w/ reform if the idea of sch has lost a purpose for being? |
5:44 pm |
rliberni: |
RT @olafelch: @ShellTerrell Thanks. i put it down to Budvar. (Excellent Czech beer!) time to share!! #edchat |
5:44 pm |
bcinfrance: |
@rliberni What's the definition of a failed teacher? Who knows, maybe they want to reform a system they feel failed them...? #edchat |
5:44 pm |
olafelch: |
@juleach @akenuam: Great. Let's raise the expectations of students. But to do that they have to have a future. #edchat |
5:44 pm |
acmcdonaldgp: |
IF I were charged with reforming a district, the first thing I did would be to work 2 identify the shared vision of all stakeholders #edchat |
5:44 pm |
ShellTerrell: |
@hadleyjf Can't do it alone! I was hoping to get some volunteers... hint, hint #edchat |
5:44 pm |
hadleyjf: |
@DoremiGirl Good to have a way to "talk" with you! Have a great class! #edchat |
5:44 pm |
jgmac1106: |
@CHuckeba @akenuam studnts & parents must also raise their expectations of teachers. While communities must have gratitude 4 service #edchat |
5:45 pm |
Principal_EL: |
So much is required of the principal and leader that many are leaving the profession, and the pipeline is dwindling....#edchat |
5:45 pm |
dlfulton: |
My one action - actively engage students about what THEY want to learn about a topic and create curriculum around that #edchat |
5:45 pm |
malchkiey: |
RT @acmcdonaldgp: Teachers need to be protected in times of change ...there a link for this reference sandy? #edchat |
5:45 pm |
jpsteltz: |
RT @acmcdonaldgp: IF I were charged with reforming a district, the first thing I did would be to work 2 identify the shared vision of all stakeholders #edchat |
5:45 pm |
m_yam: |
RT @ShellTerrell: @olafelch You're on a hotstreak today my dear keep it coming! #edchat |
5:45 pm |
hadleyjf: |
@ShellTerrell Sign me up for the work as well! No gain without.... #edchat |
5:45 pm |
ShellTerrell: |
Perhaps @MrR0g3rs & @jasontbedell we should consider making a virtual #teachmeet #edchat |
5:46 pm |
olafelch: |
@akamrt I don't believe school has lost its purpose for being. It's just that the focus is wrong. #edchat |
5:46 pm |
StarrMatica: |
RT @cybraryman1: How do we convince legislators that we elected to allow teachers, parents and students more of a role in ed reform? #edchat |
5:46 pm |
rliberni: |
He who pays the piper calls the tune, how to upend this? #edchat |
5:46 pm |
boundstaffpress: |
RT @ToughLoveforX So what's the hard part "to meetings with a #edchat style exchange" ? - Hard part is changing hearts, minds and tradition. |
5:46 pm |
jennar: |
just did something interesting- read through #edchat convo backwards replacing the word 'reform' with 'refocus' ... made me think |
5:46 pm |
ShellTerrell: |
RT @Principal_EL: So much is required of the principal & leader that many r leaving the profession, and the pipeline is dwindling....#edchat |
5:46 pm |
sudam09: |
@CHuckeba Of course reform should begin from classroom or grassroot level. parental particiapation should not be ignored. #edchat |
5:46 pm |
rliberni: |
@openstudy sometimes playing devil's advocate maybe #edchat |
5:46 pm |
Parentella: |
RT @acmcdonaldgp: IF I were charged with reforming a district, the first thing I did would be to work 2 identify the shared vision of all stakeholders #edchat |
5:46 pm |
m_yam: |
RT @ShellTerrell: Perhaps @MrR0g3rs & @jasontbedell we should consider making a virtual #teachmeet #edchat |
5:46 pm |
ShellTerrell: |
RT @dumacornellucia: Every teacher must learn how to use new tehnologies for a real reform in education #edchat |
5:46 pm |
acmcdonaldgp: |
RT @ShellTerrell: RT @Principal_EL: So much is required of the principal & leader that many r leaving the profession, .#edchat |
5:47 pm |
ShellTerrell: |
RT @dumacornellucia: Educational projects can bring a new dimmension for edu reform. #edchat |
5:47 pm |
rliberni: |
RT @olafelch: @akamrt Agree! I don't believe school has lost its purpose for being. It's just that the focus is wrong. #edchat |
5:47 pm |
olafelch: |
RT @Principal_EL: So much is required of the principals that many are leaving the profession. #edchat Give them control of their budgets! |
5:47 pm |
jgmac1106: |
@Principal_EL And on the flipside it is hard 4 tchrs 2 commit to reform when the mission and leadership shifts so frequently. #edchat |
5:47 pm |
acmcdonaldgp: |
Being an administrator is a significantly different job now than it was 12 years ago when I started. Larger external factors! #edchat |
5:47 pm |
teachingwthsoul: |
We shoot ourselves in the foot, by not staying targeted and focused. Too many districts force educators to be all over the map. #edchat |
5:47 pm |
rliberni: |
RT @ShellTerrell: RT @dumacornellucia: Educational projects can bring a new dimmension for edu reform. #edchat |
5:47 pm |
dlfulton: |
@CHuckeba can be weekly, bi-weekly depending on unit. key is valuing student input, capitalizing on their questions about a topic #edchat |
5:48 pm |
timesed: |
Teacher-led reform = great. But tough when politicians press in exact opposite direction (ie anti cross-curricular teaching) #edchat |
5:48 pm |
PearsonLongman: |
Wow, came in late to #edchat. Huge discussion this week |
5:48 pm |
swalker2: |
Change is nevr easy - reform or transform - until we all hve same ideas of wht ed is 2 provide chngs will nvr lead dn the same road #edchat |
5:48 pm |
jgmac1106: |
Words a a veteran tchr, "When a reform cycles through for the third time...its usually time to retire." #edchat |
5:48 pm |
ShellTerrell: |
@juleach @hadleyjf perhaps we should put this in the Edu PLN Ning because I know I'm going to forget names #edchat |
5:48 pm |
juleach: |
@ShellTerrell Do they really have to learn the new technologies or just be willing to try them with students?? #edchat |
5:48 pm |
MeetingTomorrow: |
By the Book: Exploring One School's Success with a Technology-Based Reading Program http://tinyurl.com/yefsznu #edchat |
5:48 pm |
teachingwthsoul: |
Don't I know it!!! Urgh!!! RT @Principal_EL: So much is required of the principal & leader that many r leaving the profession, .#edchat |
5:48 pm |
akamrt: |
@olafelch #edchat Isn't that semantical diff? If we don't u/stand purpose of sch (if it has 1 that is relevant), reform can't improve much. |
5:48 pm |
fredsheahan: |
The only way to to change the mindset of a policy maker who has greater relative influence/power, is with an organized voice. #edchat |
5:48 pm |
m_yam: |
RT @jennar: just did something interesting- read through #edchat convo backwards replacing the word 'reform' with 'refocus' ... made me think |
5:49 pm |
PearsonLongman: |
What projects are you thinking? @rliberni: RT @ShellTerrell: RT @dumacornellucia: Edu projects bring new dimmension for edu reform. #edchat |
5:49 pm |
olafelch: |
RT @timesed: Teacher-led reform = great. But tough when politicians press in exact opposite direction #edchat V. true realpolitik needed. |
5:49 pm |
jgmac1106: |
@acmcdonaldgp I know I wasn't built for the administration route. I tip my hat to all admins who work towards ed reform. #edchat |
5:49 pm |
lauraponting: |
@ShellTerrell @dumacornellucia what about in the countries/ areas where the teachers and students don't have access to new techs? #edchat |
5:49 pm |
ShellTerrell: |
RT @jgmac1106: @Principal_EL on flipside it is hard 4 tchrs 2 commit to reform when the mission and leadership shifts so frequently. #edchat |
5:50 pm |
ToughLoveforX: |
@boundstaffpress My $.02 If principal communicated to staff through a school #edchat , I think all those problems disappear. |
5:50 pm |
evmaiden: |
#edchat RT @chrislehmann: "Is our goal to be a model school or is our goal to advocate for change?" - from an SLA student. #edchat |
5:50 pm |
teachingwthsoul: |
@acmcdonaldgp Yes! And just when you have a handle on the "latest" dist. focus, they throw you a zinger! So hard on our teachers.#edchat |
5:50 pm |
Str8erLine: |
what is the topic for tonight's #edchat ? |
5:50 pm |
akamrt: |
@olafelch #edchat I would have to disagree. If we had a relevant purpose for doing school, wouldn't reform processes be more successful? |
5:50 pm |
xmath2007: |
@ShellTerrell It's a combination of many things, including both those you have mentioned #edchat |
5:51 pm |
ShellTerrell: |
. @juleach I would be happy if we could just get all tchrs to facilitate & no more lecturing #edchat |
5:51 pm |
sudam09: |
Those countries having good internet access has an edge of course. #edchat |
5:51 pm |
m_yam: |
RT @lauraponting: @ShellTerrell @dumacornellucia what about in the countries/ areas where the teachers and students don't have access to new techs? #edchat |
5:51 pm |
jgmac1106: |
@PearsonLongman Projects that connect to relevant content, while encouraging stdnts 2 improve the world build reform into curric #edchat |
5:51 pm |
olafelch: |
@fredsheahan an organized voice is one thing, but you need to win the hearts and minds of the stakeholders. #edchat |
5:51 pm |
rliberni: |
@PearsonLongman I understood collaborative edu projects btween tchrs for new ideas, pedagogy etc.. #edchat |
5:51 pm |
dlfulton: |
@CHuckeba doesn't have to be top-down change. Standards set topic, student ?s guide planning, add tchr ?s to ensure meet stds #edchat |
5:52 pm |
rliberni: |
RT @olafelch: @fredsheahan an organized voice is one thing, but you need to win the hearts and minds of the stakeholders. #edchat |
5:52 pm |
ShellTerrell: |
. @lauraponting @dumacornellucia I'm working w/ tchr in Nepal who provides prof dev thru his 1 comp in his house to all #edchat |
5:52 pm |
jgmac1106: |
RT @rliberni: @PearsonLongman I understood collaborative edu projects btween tchrs for new ideas, pedagogy etc.. #edchat |
5:52 pm |
cybraryman1: |
@Str8erLine How does the internet change the role of content and prior knowlege. Tonight's edchat #edchat |
5:52 pm |
acmcdonaldgp: |
YES. Districts need to coordinate their actions to help staff understand the reasons RT @teachingwthsoul: So hard on our teachers.#edchat |
5:52 pm |
rliberni: |
RT @sudam09: Those countries having good internet access has an edge of course. #edchat |
5:52 pm |
He3Man7: |
RT @Principal_EL: So much is required of the principal and leader that many are leaving the profession, and the pipeline is dwindling....#edchat |
5:53 pm |
k_shelton: |
@ShellTerrell there are way too many that either love to hear themselves talk and/or their ego won't let them reliquish that contol #edchat |
5:53 pm |
acmcdonaldgp: |
RT @ShellTerrell: . @juleach I would be happy if we could just get all tchrs to facilitate & no more lecturing #edchat |
5:53 pm |
olafelch: |
@akamrt but we do have a relevant purpose for school, it's just that schools aren't necessarily delivering. #edchat |
5:53 pm |
teachingwthsoul: |
@evmaiden Has got to be to advocate for best practices that enhance student achievement, that then lead to change. #edchat |
5:53 pm |
rliberni: |
RT @olafelch: @akamrt but we do have a relevant purpose for school, it's just that schools aren't necessarily delivering. #edchat |
5:54 pm |
ShellTerrell: |
RT @k_shelton: there are way too many that either love to hear themselves talk and/or their ego won't let them reliquish that contol #edchat |
5:54 pm |
paulawhite: |
for me it's not about the technology but the depth of the learning-and today's tools support that depth #edchat |
5:54 pm |
rliberni: |
@PearsonLongman others may have diff ideas - we're talking about reform generally #edchat |
5:54 pm |
rliberni: |
RT @paulawhite: well said! for me it's not about the technology but the depth of the learning-and today's tools support that depth #edchat |
5:54 pm |
ShellTerrell: |
@k_shelton These tchrs also complain that students can't learn on their own or don't want to when they never let them to begin with #edchat |
5:54 pm |
acmcdonaldgp: |
Back where we started. What is the purpse of school? What do we reform? RT @olafelch: @akamrt we have a relevant purpose f/school #edchat |
5:54 pm |
sudam09: |
There should be efforts to provide technologies to inaccessible areas to give the benefit to all. #edchat |
5:54 pm |
CHuckeba: |
@dlfulton but with some schools/state rules, it is hard to fit into that box with the requirements they place on teachers. #edchat |
5:55 pm |
boundstaffpress: |
#vanmeter Idea - give legislators standardized tests. Bring about reform through experience. #edchat |
5:55 pm |
m_yam: |
RT @paulawhite for me it's not about the technology but the depth of the learning-and today's tools support that depth #edchat Agreed. |
5:55 pm |
ShellTerrell: |
@CHuckeba I'm a teacher #edchat |
5:55 pm |
teachingwthsoul: |
No More "sage on the stage". RT @ShellTerrell: @juleach Wud be happy if we could get all tchrs to facilitate & no more lecturing #edchat |
5:55 pm |
ShellTerrell: |
RT @PearsonLongman: Agree that it's hard to have unified voice when situation changes so rapidly #edchat |
5:55 pm |
akamrt: |
Have to run. Thx @JasonFlom, @rliberni, @StarrMatica, @ShellTerrell, @sudam09, @franze98 for letting me learn w/ you #edchat |
5:55 pm |
evmaiden: |
. @teachingwthsoul true, just thought perspective interesting from students at a model school for change #edchat |
5:55 pm |
jgmac1106: |
Thx @rliberni @shellterrell for another week of great moderating. Kept us focused. As #edchat grows your efforts are more appreciated |
5:55 pm |
CHuckeba: |
@teachingwthsoul RT @Principal_EL:You could also say the same of teachers.the requirements/expectations today are nearly impossible. #edchat |
5:55 pm |
acmcdonaldgp: |
RT @sudam09: There should be efforts to provide technologies to inaccessible areas to give the benefit to all. #edchat |
5:55 pm |
hadleyjf: |
@paulawhite It's about igniting/reigniting a love of learning in ts. Then show how tech can support/encourage. #edchat |
5:55 pm |
xmath2007: |
Teacher tenure policies, good tchr can go as far as he wants, bad tchr is free to do very little #edchat |
5:55 pm |
paulawhite: |
It's also not about whether I stand up and lecture--it's about students learning how to learn efficaciously #edchat |
5:56 pm |
boundstaffpress: |
PD this semester is partly driven by teachers. Some great ideas being presented. Lots of buy-in. #edchat |
5:56 pm |
ShellTerrell: |
RT @sudam09: There should be efforts to provide technologies to inaccessible areas to give the benefit to all. #edchat |
5:56 pm |
rliberni: |
@akamrt thanks you for all your gr8 insights #teachertuesday! #edchat |
5:56 pm |
rliberni: |
RT @paulawhite: It's also not about whether I stand up and lecture--it's about students learning how to learn efficaciously #edchat |
5:56 pm |
olafelch: |
@ShellTerrell And in the "developed" world I've teachers who wait for a printout because they won't log in to a dbase. #edchat |
5:56 pm |
fredsheahan: |
This is a powerful article for leadership inspiration and guidance on winning hearts and minds: http://is.gd/7yR0z #edchat |
5:56 pm |
jpsteltz: |
RT @xmath2007: Teacher tenure policies, good tchr can go as far as he wants, bad tchr is free to do very little #edchat #Teacher #education |
5:56 pm |
rliberni: |
@jgmac1106 thank you! #teachertuesday! #edchat |
5:56 pm |
rpetersmauri: |
RT @Tweet4TeachersNOMINATE! Honor your favorite K-12 teacher in our Teacher Excellence Awards! http://ow.ly/10BKg #edtech #edchat |
5:56 pm |
hadleyjf: |
RT @paulawhite: Its also not about whether I stand up and lecture--its about students learning how to learn efficaciously #edchat |
5:57 pm |
paulawhite: |
sorry to come in late. . . #edchat |
5:57 pm |
evmaiden: |
RT @ShellTerrell: RT @sudam09: There should be efforts to provide technologies to inaccessible areas to give the benefit to all. #edchat |
5:57 pm |
readtoday: |
RT @boundstaffpress: #vanmeter Idea - give legislators standardized tests. Bring about reform through experience. #edchat |
5:57 pm |
rliberni: |
RT @olafelch: @ShellTerrell And in the "developed" world I've teachers who wait for a printout because they won't log in to a dbase. #edchat |
5:57 pm |
jeanlastennet: |
RT @morsmal: 5 Essential Tools for the Mobile Journalist. http://bit.ly/dgRWmx #edtech #edchat |
5:57 pm |
readtoday: |
@ShellTerrell What is the #edchat topic for today?Thanks |
5:57 pm |
m_yam: |
RT @hadleyjf: RT @paulawhite: Its also not about whether I stand up and lecture--its about students learning how to learn efficaciously #edchat |
5:57 pm |
rliberni: |
Don't forget to follow @jswiatek for the archive #edchat |
5:58 pm |
acmcdonaldgp: |
@paulawhite @boundstaffpress PD NEEDS should always be driven by teacher needs. What do we need to do to support schl goals? #edchat |
5:58 pm |
Parentella: |
It's import. 2 teach in a variety of ways since students learn in different ways, lecturing, action, reading...it's all valid -AH #edchat |
5:58 pm |
studentforcenow: |
RT @paulawhite: It's also not about whether I stand up and lecture--it's about students learning how to learn efficaciously #edchat |
5:58 pm |
PearsonLongman: |
Agreed. All tools cn be used by good teachers to develop minds @rliberni: RT @paulawhite: not about lecture, sts learn how to learn #edchat |
5:58 pm |
paulawhite: |
RT @fredsheahan:powerful article-leadership inspiration-winning hearts/minds: http://is.gd/7yR0z #edchat Looks good, thx 4 sharing! |
5:59 pm |
hadleyjf: |
Time to go! Thanks for the conversation! #edchat |
5:59 pm |
rliberni: |
Summary of discussion and all links tommorrow at http://bit.ly/1aB6bx #edchat |
5:59 pm |
openstudy: |
I'll see you all tonight for some more #edchat conversation at 7 p.m.! Have a good afternoon. |
5:59 pm |
teachingwthsoul: |
@CHuckeba Yes...not sure where you are, But here in Cali we have tons of eager, wud b teachers. I'm mentoring a few.#edchat |
5:59 pm |
m_yam: |
RT @MeetingTomorrow: By the Book: Exploring One School's Success with a Technology-Based Reading Program http://tinyurl.com/yefsznu #edchat |
6:00 pm |
snugnluv: |
RT @Parentella: It's import. 2 teach in a variety of ways since students learn in different ways, lecturing, action, reading...it's all valid -AH #edchat |
6:00 pm |
PearsonLongman: |
Thanks all. Looking forward to the summary tomorrow @rliberni #edchat |
6:00 pm |
teachingwthsoul: |
Ouch! So painful...RT @xmath2007: Teacher tenure policies, good tchr can go as far as he wants, bad tchr is free to do very little #edchat |
6:00 pm |
acmcdonaldgp: |
I'm off everyone! Thanks for the gr8 discussion. My last point: does education and learning = school? What do we want to reform? #edchat |
6:01 pm |
rliberni: |
@readtoday Do we believe all educators should further educational reform? Why? #edchat |
6:01 pm |
paulawhite: |
@acmcdonaldgp you a buddy of @Djakes? LOL We had this discussion last week! #edchat |
6:01 pm |
m_yam: |
RT @acmcdonaldgp: RT @ShellTerrell: . @juleach I would be happy if we could just get all tchrs to facilitate & no more lecturing #edchat |
6:01 pm |
evmaiden: |
RT @acmcdonaldgp: Thanks for the gr8 discussion. My last point: does education and learning = school? What do we want to reform? #edchat |
6:01 pm |
rliberni: |
@acmcdonaldgp thank you for a gr8 discussion #teachertuesday! #edchat |
6:01 pm |
paulawhite: |
RT @rliberni: @readtoday Do we believe all educators should further educational reform? Why? #edchat |
6:01 pm |
sudam09: |
RT @rliberni: Summary of discussion and all links tommorrow at http://bit.ly/1aB6bx #edchat |
6:01 pm |
esolcourses: |
RT @rliberni: Summary of discussion and all links tommorrow at http://bit.ly/1aB6bx #edchat |
6:01 pm |
acmcdonaldgp: |
@paulawhite LOL...nope.....don't know @Djakes......great discussion topic though! #edchat |
6:02 pm |
Parentella: |
Great chat today. Thanks for sharing your insights with me, I keep learning more every time with you all! #edchat -AH |
6:02 pm |
rliberni: |
@PearsonLongman thank you for a gr8 discussion #teachertuesday! #edchat |
6:02 pm |
paulawhite: |
Thansk all, sounds like I missed a GREAT one--looking forward to the summary! #edchat |
6:02 pm |
olafelch: |
Great dynamic #edchat tonight. Thanks to all, esp. @rliberni @ShellTerrell @akamrt @acmcdonaldgp @DoremiGirl @evmaiden #teachertuesday |
6:03 pm |
swalker2: |
Thanks for the conversation #edchat |
6:03 pm |
paulawhite: |
@ShellTerrell thanks, as always for facillitating! #edchat |
6:03 pm |
rliberni: |
@paulawhite it was lively today! thank you too! #teachertuesday #edchat |
6:03 pm |
timesed: |
Thanks to all at #edchat. PS ?Teachers and students should press for an education worthy of a democracy? http://bit.ly/2zu27D |
6:03 pm |
rliberni: |
@olafelch thnks some gr8 comments! #teachertuesday #edchat |
6:04 pm |
allofek12: |
Thanks for a great #edchat! #teachertuesday @hadleyjf @rliberni @ShellTerrell |
6:04 pm |
teachingwthsoul: |
Loved the robust #edchat! Would love to see us continue a topic for a few weeks before jumping to another...just saying Thanks @ShellTerrell |
6:04 pm |
rliberni: |
RT @timesed: Thanks to all at #edchat. PS ?Teachers and students should press for an education worthy of a democracy? http://bit.ly/2zu27D |
6:04 pm |
paulawhite: |
RT @timesed: Thanks to all at #edchat. PS ?Teachers and students should press for an education worthy of a democracy? http://bit.ly/2zu27D |
6:04 pm |
CHuckeba: |
RT @Parentella: It's import. 2 teach in a variety of ways since students learn in different ways, lecturing, action, reading...it's all valid -AH #edchat |
6:04 pm |
bcinfrance: |
Could've been interesting to see WHAT tchrs feel needs reforming WHERE..4 ex France: long hours, tchr recruitment, parents shut out #edchat |
6:04 pm |
acmcdonaldgp: |
@olafelch Thank you too! I enjoy these a great deal. Would love to turn a chat like this into an action research proj. #edchat |
6:05 pm |
rliberni: |
A great discussion today everyone thank you all summary tomorrow http://bit.ly/1aB6bx and archive @jswiatek later #edchat |
6:05 pm |
readtoday: |
RT @paulawhite: RT @rliberni: @readtoday Do we believe all educators should further educational reform? Why? #edchat |
6:05 pm |
olafelch: |
Great dynamic #edchat tonight. Thanks to all, esp. @sudam09 @min_d_j @msmithpds @esolcourses @ToughLoveforX @elanaleoni #teachertuesday |
6:05 pm |
sudam09: |
Useful #edchat indeed though i was a bit away. Will read tomorrow @rliberni |
6:05 pm |
paulawhite: |
RT @bcinfrance: Could've been interesting to see WHAT tchrs feel needs reforming WHERE... GOOD IDEA for follow up #edchat |
6:05 pm |
rliberni: |
@acmcdonaldgp that's a gr8 idea - we should think seriously about it #edchat |
6:05 pm |
esolcourses: |
Thanks for a great discussion, everyone! With special thanks to @ShellTerrell and @rliberni for moderating :-) #edchat #teachertuesday |
6:05 pm |
readtoday: |
@paulawhite Thanks Paul. The system is all upside down. Teachers are involved in reform every day. #edchat |
6:06 pm |
rliberni: |
@sudam09 thank you for your gr8 contribution , so important to get another viewpoint! #teachertuesday #edchat |
6:06 pm |
readtoday: |
I am so offended by the amount of money spent on "arm chair" reform efforts and studies #edchat |
6:06 pm |
CHuckeba: |
good discussion, but agree with many that we need a follow-up. How will we actually make change? How do we reform? #edchat |
6:06 pm |
rliberni: |
@esolcourses thanks Sue, another gr8 one #teachertuesday #edchat |
6:07 pm |
k_shelton: |
@ShellTerrell I agree. Dealt that with more times that I would like in grad school too #edchat |
6:07 pm |
rliberni: |
@allofek12 wonderful coments thanx #teachertuesday #edchat |
6:07 pm |
jennar: |
RT @rliberni: A great discussion today everyone thank you all summary tomorrow http://bit.ly/1aB6bx and archive @jswiatek later #edchat |
6:08 pm |
rliberni: |
RT @readtoday: I am so offended by the amount of money spent on "arm chair" reform efforts and studies #edchat |
6:08 pm |
ToughLoveforX: |
@boundstaffpress #vanmeter Idea - give legislators standardized tests to politcos . #edchat Those who don't pass, get fired or left back :-) |
6:08 pm |
rliberni: |
@CHuckeba I think you're right we should re-visit this #edchat |
6:09 pm |
bcinfrance: |
@paulawhite I just started thinking there must be huge cultural differences in the question...but got brilliant too late, lol! #edchat |
6:09 pm |
jasontbedell: |
@ShellTerrell I would be all for it. I'm having trouble finding sponsors, so this could be a better option. #teachmeet #edchat |
6:09 pm |
cullaloe: |
@xmath2007 Just not true. Good teachers are bullied and suppressed by the bad teachers that have been promoted to SMT #edchat |
6:09 pm |
olafelch: |
Great dynamic #edchat tonight. Thanks to all, esp. @analomba @hadleyjf @m_yam @Parentella @jgmac1106 @openstudy #teachertuesday |
6:10 pm |
cbcurtisTTL: |
RT @xmath2007: Teacher tenure policies, good tchr can go as far as he wants, bad tchr is free to do very little #edchat |
6:10 pm |
teachingwthsoul: |
RT @ASCD Educator: Curriculum overhaul should be part of reform: Meaningful education reform must also includ.http://bit.ly/aZfTHu #edchat |
6:10 pm |
tsiuts: |
RT @web20classroom This evenings #edchat topic is on how the Internet is changing the role of content and prior knowledge. #literacy |
6:10 pm |
MissHMartin: |
RT @timesed: From a press perspective, one role teachers can play is challenging politicians? school myths #edchat http://bit.ly/autjsZ |
6:10 pm |
paulawhite: |
@bcinfrance that's why it should go more than one week--so we can all share our after-fact-brilliance! <grin> #edchat |
6:10 pm |
m_yam: |
@hadleyjf @olafelch Oh I missed your replies while I've been reading and RTing... Still tough to keep up with #edchat |
6:11 pm |
La_H: |
RT @timesed: From a press perspective, one role teachers can play is challenging politicians? school myths #edchat http://bit.ly/autjsZ |
6:11 pm |
readtoday: |
If teachers were equal members at the reform table we would finally see real change #edchat |
6:11 pm |
teachingwthsoul: |
@CHuckeba Yes! I just tweeted the same...more or less...Lets stay on this same topic for a few weeks.#edchat |
6:12 pm |
readtoday: |
RT @rliberni: RT @paulawhite: well said! for me it's not about the technology but the depth of the learning-and today's tools support that depth #edchat |
6:12 pm |
allofek12: |
Amen! RT @readtoday If teachers were equal members at the reform table we would finally see real change #edchat |
6:13 pm |
shawdave: |
coming late to the #edchat party. Looking forward to the log |
6:13 pm |
readtoday: |
RT @sudam09: There should be efforts to provide technologies to inaccessible areas to give the benefit to all. #edchat |
6:13 pm |
vanessacassie: |
@shawdave It was a good one! Happy reading :) #edchat |
6:13 pm |
readtoday: |
On a technology front, I have been most disturbed by the i-pad. #edchat This is the Digital Divide looking for a place to happen. |
6:13 pm |
lamoureuxr: |
RT @paulawhite: 4 me it's not about the technology but the depth of the learning-& today's tools support that depth #edchat <well said! |
6:14 pm |
olafelch: |
One of the saddest things about my job is the vast majority of teachers I see just wouldn't get the point of what we just did in #edchat ;o( |
6:15 pm |
ToughLoveforX: |
Anyone is interested in continuing a convo about making #edchat the focus of an Action Research project? at the ning http://bit.ly/1RSL2n |
6:17 pm |
m_yam: |
RT @olafelch: One of the saddest things about my job is the vast majority of teachers I see just wouldn't get the point of what we just did in #edchat ;o( |
6:17 pm |
sudam09: |
RT @olafelch: One of the saddest things about my job is the vast majority of teachers I see just wouldn't get the point of what we just did in #edchat ;o( |
6:17 pm |
NewsNeus: |
RT @ToughLoveforX: Anyone is interested in continuing a convo about making #edchat the focus of an Action Research project? at the ning http://bit.ly/1RSL2n |
6:19 pm |
Principal_EL: |
@CHuckeba @teachingwthsoul Amen! RT You could say the same of teachers. The requirements/expectations today are nearly impossible. #edchat |
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