| 3:58 pm |
seanbanville: |
For those new to edchat, Welcome. Please use the #edchat hashtag in all tweets so they are included in the #edchat TweetStream. |
| 3:58 pm |
shawdave: |
why the change in topic? #edchat |
| 3:58 pm |
TheNerdyTeacher: |
Alright #edchat time! For the next hour my tweets will be dedicated to #edchat. Come join us! |
| 3:58 pm |
joe_bower: |
And my moderation career comes to an end as I can't even get the topic correct. *embarassed* #edchat |
| 3:59 pm |
janwebb21: |
RT @TheNerdyTeacher: Alright #edchat time! For the next hour my tweets will be dedicated to #edchat. Come join us! |
| 3:59 pm |
shawdave: |
@joe_bower that WAS the topic. it changed. #edchat |
| 3:59 pm |
CHuckeba: |
Reform efforts should focus on revamping curriculum--make it relevant, engaging, and technology focused! #edchat |
| 4:00 pm |
TheNerdyTeacher: |
@joe_bower - Shake it off buddy. We have along hour ahead of us. #edchat |
| 4:00 pm |
MissCheska: |
For the next hour, my tweets are dedicated to #edchat! |
| 4:00 pm |
olafelch: |
Welcome everyone. The theme for today is: From an educators POV what should be cut from education budgets when times get tough? #edchat |
| 4:00 pm |
Parentella: |
RT @MissCheska: For the next hour, my tweets are dedicated to #edchat! |
| 4:00 pm |
tomwhitby: |
@joe_bower What is today's Topic? #edchat |
| 4:01 pm |
tbfurman: |
@joe_bower you do great work, everyone knows it. #edchat |
| 4:01 pm |
cspiezio: |
RT @MissCheska: For the next hour, my tweets are dedicated to #edchat! |
| 4:01 pm |
colport: |
I think today's #edchat will resonate with many people among many different countries across the globe. Cuts are inevitable in the UK. |
| 4:01 pm |
MissCheska: |
@CHuckeba I would add reforming pedagogy fr. didactic to constructivist PBL-based strategies #edchat |
| 4:02 pm |
elanaleoni: |
Such a tough question. Perhaps the better way to look at it, is what should be kept? #edchat |
| 4:02 pm |
janwebb21: |
RT @tbfurman: @joe_bower you do great work, everyone knows it. #edchat |
| 4:02 pm |
fiteach: |
@CHuckeba How do you define relevant? Is it decided locally? #edchat |
| 4:02 pm |
janwebb21: |
RT @colport: I think today's #edchat will resonate with many people among many different countries across the globe. Cuts are inevitable in the UK. |
| 4:02 pm |
TheNerdyTeacher: |
In our district, I would like to see the Admins take some cuts. #edchat (Sorry to my Admin Friends) |
| 4:02 pm |
harrisonmike: |
RT @colport: I think today's #edchat will resonate with many people among many different countries across the globe. Cuts are inevitable in the UK. |
| 4:02 pm |
mritzius: |
Priorities need to change for a new model of education. Traditional, industrial model is very expensive #edchat |
| 4:02 pm |
olafelch: |
@colport Cuts, or a change in focus of funding? #edchat |
| 4:03 pm |
fiteach: |
Tough one. RT @olafelch: The theme for today is: From an educators POV what should be cut from ed budgets when times get tough? #edchat |
| 4:03 pm |
joe_bower: |
Today's #edchat topic: From an educators POV what should be cut from education budgets when times get tough? |
| 4:03 pm |
cspiezio: |
@elanaleoni the first thing that should be kept is good teachers! we cant afford to let go of effective nontenured/young teachers! #edchat |
| 4:03 pm |
MrR0g3rs: |
#edchat a fundamental issue that keeps being ignored is that the very way schools are funded is flawed & unfair. |
| 4:03 pm |
sentenceworks: |
RT @seanbanville: For those new to edchat, Welcome. Please use the #edchat hashtag in all tweets so they are included in the #edchat TweetStream. |
| 4:03 pm |
olafelch: |
RT @fiteach: @CHuckeba How do you define relevant? Is it decided locally? #edchat (Almost never) |
| 4:03 pm |
MissCheska: |
@elanaleoni Good rephrase: keep the cores. Why shut down the science programs before the sports? #edchat |
| 4:03 pm |
harrisonmike: |
Going to join in #edchat over the next hour. Some of my tweets will have the hashtag and be intended for discussion over there |
| 4:04 pm |
mritzius: |
@elanaleoni We shouldn't tinker around periphery, we should change the paradigm #edchat |
| 4:04 pm |
tbfurman: |
I think Illinois is a constructive example: 25 years of underfunding teacher pensions--compiling billions in deficits...and then.. #edchat |
| 4:04 pm |
janwebb21: |
#edchat unfortunately it seems that a lot of cuts seem to be happening with advisory services and inservice training |
| 4:04 pm |
olafelch: |
RT @MrR0g3rs: #edchat a fundamental issue that keeps being ignored is that the very way schools are funded is flawed & unfair. |
| 4:04 pm |
MrR0g3rs: |
#edchat if we are being forced to adopt a national curriculum (common core), then every school should be nationally funded |
| 4:04 pm |
TheNerdyTeacher: |
@cspiezio - Agreed. We need to keep the best teachers around to help other teachers grow. #edchat |
| 4:04 pm |
harrisonmike: |
What should be cut from education budgets from an educator's POV? Bureaucracy #edchat #esol #fe |
| 4:04 pm |
sentenceworks: |
RT @joe_bower: Today's #edchat: Since we can not scrap the education system entirely, where should our efforts for reform be placed? |
| 4:04 pm |
pysproblem81: |
@thenerdyteacher UK FE has had a lot of management consultants... I'd restrict the £££s spent on that #edchat |
| 4:04 pm |
joe_bower: |
Should tough times call for any cuts at all or should tough times signal even more of a need for investment in education #edchat? |
| 4:04 pm |
colport: |
@olafelch I think that funding will be decreased in many forms across many departments, including education - politicians will spin #edchat |
| 4:04 pm |
elanaleoni: |
The first things I've seen cut are things that inspire creativity (art programs). #edchat |
| 4:04 pm |
MissCheska: |
@TheNerdyTeacher Agree, I would like the superintendents to take pay cuts too. #edchat |
| 4:04 pm |
theresawhite: |
Excited to be a part of #edchat today. Yay for break! #edchat |
| 4:04 pm |
tbfurman: |
when the recession comes, nobody has the will to fund them, so they cut pensions for all future teachers. It's a terrible message. #edchat |
| 4:04 pm |
mritzius: |
@olafelch cuts only save in short term, change in focus can reap long term dividends #edchat |
| 4:05 pm |
CHuckeba: |
@fiteach Yes-decide what is most imp to your district (based on demographics & general needs of the kids) #edchat |
| 4:05 pm |
theresawhite: |
RT @MrR0g3rs: #edchat if we are being forced to adopt a national curriculum (common core), every school should be nationally funded #edchat |
| 4:05 pm |
tbfurman: |
And the lesson is: if you like your programs, make sure they are honestly funded from the start. #edchat |
| 4:05 pm |
akenuam: |
RT @joe_bower: Should tough times call for any cuts atall or should tough times signal even more of a need 4 nvestment n ed #edchat? |
| 4:05 pm |
TheNerdyTeacher: |
@pysproblem81 - Agreed. The problem with our budget is that it is created by admins. They won't cut themselves. #edchat |
| 4:05 pm |
mritzius: |
@olafelch School districts shouldn't define relevant, the kids define relevant #edchat |
| 4:05 pm |
MissCheska: |
@cspiezio Very true, get rid of the "last hired, first fired" #edchat |
| 4:05 pm |
joe_bower: |
@MissCheska who gets to say that science is more important than sports? #edchat |
| 4:05 pm |
EduTechSmith: |
#edchat |
| 4:05 pm |
olafelch: |
RT @colport: I think that funding will b decreased in many forms across many departments, incl. education - politicians will spin #edchat |
| 4:05 pm |
Parentella: |
RT @MrR0g3rs: if we are being forced to adopt a national curriculum (common core), every school should be nationally funded #edchat |
| 4:06 pm |
theresawhite: |
It is also important to keep arts in the schools and funded - student love arts and make them well-rounded people. Necessary! #edchat |
| 4:06 pm |
malcolmbellamy: |
I think that it is important to see what opportunities can be found from the results of the cuts #edchat |
| 4:06 pm |
colport: |
@MrR0g3rs This seems relevant to many countries #edchat - First cuts must include Bureaucracy - all educators see it as an obstruction. |
| 4:06 pm |
DouglasCrets: |
Why must people always think of cut or spend in ed budgets? If schools could produce, or get entrepreneurial, they could make money. #edchat |
| 4:06 pm |
tomwhitby: |
Standardized Tests are too costly to keep. Cut Standardized testing to save $$$. #edchat |
| 4:06 pm |
harrisonmike: |
This is a #UK specific one, but can't we cut #ofsted? #edchat #esol #fe #standards #inspection |
| 4:06 pm |
corriekelly: |
RT @Parentella: RT @MrR0g3rs: if we are being forced to adopt a national curriculum (common core), every school should be nationally funded #edchat |
| 4:06 pm |
EduTechSmith: |
I'm getting real-time search results at TweetGrid http://tweetgrid.com/ #edchat |
| 4:06 pm |
TheNerdyTeacher: |
@mritzius - You are right. Cutting staff is only a short term problem. Funding needs to be addressed. #edchat |
| 4:06 pm |
AntHeald: |
Chance to join in #edchat - I'll be using http://twitterfall.com/ to keep up |
| 4:06 pm |
MrR0g3rs: |
#edchat funding is so compartmentalized that reducing paper or other things does not necessarily save teacher's jobs |
| 4:06 pm |
spartannielsen: |
RT @tomwhitby: Standardized Tests are too costly to keep. Cut Standardized testing to save $$$. #edchat |
| 4:06 pm |
Parentella: |
I would argue that tough times would signal a need to step up educational development to aid in the future recovery #edchat |
| 4:07 pm |
musicfan214: |
RT @cspiezio RT @MissCheska: For the next hour, my tweets are dedicated to #edchat! |
| 4:07 pm |
Oh_the_Places: |
#edchat - how do we get students involved in the budget cut discussion? |
| 4:07 pm |
theresawhite: |
@joe_bower @MissCheska I don't think one is more import than the other - they both hold important learning opportunities. #edchat |
| 4:07 pm |
cspiezio: |
@MissCheska absolutely... since when do credentials not matter? #edchat |
| 4:07 pm |
EduTechSmith: |
@tomwhitby can't cut that until colleges change their application process, right? #edchat |
| 4:07 pm |
akenuam: |
efforts for reform should be placed on integrating technology in education and edtech training for teachers #edchat |
| 4:07 pm |
aprilabtbalance: |
RT @tomwhitby: Standardized Tests are too costly to keep. Cut Standardized testing to save $$$. #edchat |
| 4:07 pm |
colport: |
@joe_bower Cut all summative testing? #edchat |
| 4:07 pm |
janwebb21: |
@mritzius #edchat agreed but sometimes kids need guidance to be able to prioritise relevance |
| 4:07 pm |
olafelch: |
RT @DouglasCrets: If schools could produce, or get entrepreneurial, they could make money. #edchat |
| 4:07 pm |
elanaleoni: |
RT @DouglasCrets: Y must people always think of cut or spend? If schools could produce, or get entrepreneurial, they could make $. #edchat |
| 4:07 pm |
cspiezio: |
@edutopia good teachers dont necessarily make the most money... experience does not equal effectiveness #edchat |
| 4:08 pm |
tbfurman: |
@tomwhitby Florida wants to spend more and more on testing, not teaching #sb6 #edchat |
| 4:08 pm |
MissCheska: |
@joe_bower I would call for more balance, but in my short experience $ goes to fund more rallies than supply a science lab #edchat |
| 4:08 pm |
EduTechSmith: |
i will have to say hats off to all those who make free web 2.0 tools for students to use - that saves lots of $$$ #edchat |
| 4:08 pm |
theresawhite: |
@Oh_the_Places Students involved via surveys, interviews, town hall meetings. Let them decide what is reasonable to keep. #edchat |
| 4:08 pm |
MrR0g3rs: |
@tomwhitby NY is examining this right now. cutting 80% of Regents would save something like 70 million #edchat |
| 4:08 pm |
lisamonthie: |
RT @cspiezio: @edutopia good teachers dont necessarily make the most money... experience does not equal effectiveness #edchat |
| 4:08 pm |
Oh_the_Places: |
@olafelch That's sort of how I feel 2 but w 1/2 schls closing, voters see ths as valid reason to select candidate & change decision #edchat |
| 4:08 pm |
olafelch: |
@akenuam But won't tech integration cost money? #edchat |
| 4:08 pm |
harrisonmike: |
@thenerdyteacher @pysproblem81 The answer is 'real' teaching professionals in management not 'real' managers in education #edchat |
| 4:08 pm |
malcolmbellamy: |
@tomwhitby exactly the cuts may well provide an opportunity to dump testing and promote teacher assessment #edchat |
| 4:08 pm |
janwebb21: |
@olafelch @colport #edchat one consequence is that we will be increasingly responsible for own professional development so in danger of ... |
| 4:08 pm |
pysproblem81: |
@harrisonmike or cut the levels of stats that #ofsted churn through instead of seeing real teaching #edchat |
| 4:08 pm |
aprilabtbalance: |
@EduTechSmith if they don't have the test scores, then colleges will have to use a different process #edchat |
| 4:08 pm |
colport: |
@harrisonmike Yes please. Bye bye OFSTED!! Would this really happen though in this climate of accountability? #edchat |
| 4:08 pm |
theresawhite: |
@colport @joe_bower not ALL summative testing, just summative testing mandated by state. Create district assessments to show growth #edchat |
| 4:08 pm |
joe_bower: |
First thing 2 go should be gross amounts of $ that gets sunk in stand testing Deleware's Data cops make me sick http://bit.ly/c07Stx #edchat |
| 4:08 pm |
corriekelly: |
@colport #edchat Maybe look at cutting assessments that aren't authentic & don't drive instruction or even support best practices |
| 4:08 pm |
EduTechSmith: |
what about saving $$$ by all these free PD that are occuring online - stream those at inservice #edchat |
| 4:08 pm |
tomwhitby: |
Simplify and promote district mergers. #edchat |
| 4:08 pm |
mritzius: |
@thenerdyteacher Schools need to be creative and change priorities to better leverage the funds that they have #edchat |
| 4:09 pm |
TheNerdyTeacher: |
#edchat Student involvement would be great. |
| 4:09 pm |
janwebb21: |
@olafelch @colport #edchat lack of consistency/equalitiy creeping in through back door |
| 4:09 pm |
Oh_the_Places: |
@olafelch @lhmiles2 I think we need to get SOME student involvement at some level #edchat |
| 4:09 pm |
MissCheska: |
@MrR0g3rs Would nationally funding all schools erase charter schools and other alt schools? #edchat |
| 4:09 pm |
seanbanville: |
For those new to edchat, Welcome. Be sure to use the #edchat hashtag when you tweet so yr tweets appear in the edchat column. |
| 4:09 pm |
elanaleoni: |
RT @Oh_the_Places: #edchat - how do we get students involved in the budget cut discussion? (Gr8 q) |
| 4:09 pm |
Parentella: |
RT @EduTechSmith: what about saving $$$ by all these free PD that are occuring online - stream those at inservice #edchat |
| 4:09 pm |
TheNerdyTeacher: |
#edchat - I guess we need to decide what s core to the educational experience and cut what is not. Thoughts? |
| 4:09 pm |
olafelch: |
RT @tomwhitby: Simplify and promote district mergers. #edchat |
| 4:09 pm |
Aaron_Eyler: |
#edchat The first "cut" should be consolidating like items from different lines. Why do districts buy easels AND whiteboards? |
| 4:09 pm |
EduTechSmith: |
@aprilabtbalance it is a 2 way street. but colleges have to make the 1st move so that state tests r not needed #edchat |
| 4:09 pm |
joe_bower: |
If we have to cut, it makes no sense to cut teaching and learning but keep all the measuring. Testing should go first #edchat |
| 4:09 pm |
lisamonthie: |
@EduTechSmith and hats off to the people who share those free web 2.0 tools they find and help with their suggestions for use #edchat |
| 4:09 pm |
colport: |
@janwebb21 Are we not mainly responsible for our own CPD? I feel that I am #edchat @olafelch |
| 4:09 pm |
theresawhite: |
@janwebb21 Would it really be so bad to be in charge of our own PD? Many of us could find much more pertinent info to work on. #edchat |
| 4:09 pm |
seanbanville: |
RT @EduTechSmith: what about saving $$$ by all these free PD that are occuring online - stream those at inservice #edchat |
| 4:10 pm |
corriekelly: |
RT @mritzius: @thenerdyteacher Schools need to be creative and change priorities to better leverage the funds that they have #edchat |
| 4:10 pm |
MrR0g3rs: |
#edchat my district cuts r being made 2 arts first, seems like that always happens. So wrong in this climate of standardization |
| 4:10 pm |
DouglasCrets: |
With all the youth today so tapped into mobile devices, apps, etc. I am convinced that this wave of entrepreneurs can change edu. #edchat |
| 4:10 pm |
EduTechSmith: |
@aprilabtbalance if they cut out state tests & colleges require - the student gets hurt #edchat |
| 4:10 pm |
tbfurman: |
@olafelch the good people at #vanmeter view tech integration as a more efficient way to use money than building huge schools. I #edchat |
| 4:10 pm |
web20education: |
Hy to all #edchat |
| 4:10 pm |
seanbanville: |
RT @tomwhitby: Simplify and promote district mergers. #edchat |
| 4:10 pm |
mritzius: |
@thenerdyteacher Example, take a school off the energy grid through renewables, that cld B a savings of nearly $50k/mo in perpetuity #edchat |
| 4:10 pm |
Aaron_Eyler: |
The next step needs to be ending double-dipping. If the tech exists, why are districts buying tons of paper? #edchat |
| 4:10 pm |
angelbrady: |
Why not trim instead of cut things from a budget for schools? With technology today, we can do things we couldn't dream 10 years ago #edchat |
| 4:10 pm |
olafelch: |
RT @colport: @janwebb21 Are we not mainly responsible for our own CPD? I feel that I am #edchat @olafelch (I agree!) |
| 4:10 pm |
corriekelly: |
RT @joe_bower: If we have to cut, it makes no sense to cut teaching and learning but keep all the measuring. Testing should go first #edchat |
| 4:10 pm |
DouglasCrets: |
We need to be thinking less about site maintenance, or facilities management, and reaarrange teacher contracts, enable innovation. #edchat |
| 4:10 pm |
chrisludwig: |
Definitely agree, hard to convince some, tho>RT @tomwhitby: Simplify and promote district mergers. #edchat |
| 4:10 pm |
harrisonmike: |
@colport No chance, sadly. If it did go, there would just be another incarnation on the way. #ofsted #edchat #inspection #accountability |
| 4:10 pm |
mattguthrie: |
For the next hour my tweets will be devoted to #edchat |
| 4:10 pm |
MissCheska: |
@joe_bower I would ask, what would help the children most during tough times? #edchat |
| 4:10 pm |
TheNerdyTeacher: |
@mritzius - They do, but what industry can budget properly when the funding is cut mid year and without notice. #edchat Flawed system |
| 4:10 pm |
AntHeald: |
Maybe reduce the number of expensive leadership posts by distributing leadership less hierarchically? Just thinking. #edchat |
| 4:11 pm |
DouglasCrets: |
School should be the place where we take the safest risks, incubate great ideas, and produce something to help our economy. #edchat |
| 4:11 pm |
olafelch: |
RT @EduTechSmith: @aprilabtbalance if they cut out state tests & colleges require - the student gets hurt #edchat |
| 4:11 pm |
corriekelly: |
#edchat AMEN! Teachers should be put above testing on the priority scale. |
| 4:11 pm |
EduTechSmith: |
cuts should not hurt the student's ability to become a hard working citizen #edchat |
| 4:11 pm |
sentenceworks: |
RT @TheNerdyTeacher: #edchat - I guess we need to decide what s core to the educational experience and cut what is not. Thoughts? |
| 4:11 pm |
malcolmbellamy: |
to quote an old saying we cut arts/music at our peril #edchat |
| 4:11 pm |
TheNerdyTeacher: |
@mritzius - Wont' that cost a chunk of $ up front? #edchat |
| 4:11 pm |
shirleylacroix: |
@MrR0g3rs and those may be the subjects that engage the kids #edchat #edchat |
| 4:11 pm |
aprilabtbalance: |
Do homeschoolers take standardized tests? #edchat |
| 4:11 pm |
akenuam: |
@tbfurman: Florida is a mess http://bit.ly/bkGuYS #edchat |
| 4:11 pm |
MrR0g3rs: |
@MissCheska not sure. maybe. all i know is that the property tax system is flawed if standards r being nationally madated #edchat |
| 4:11 pm |
olafelch: |
RT @MissCheska: @joe_bower I would ask, what would help the children most during tough times? #edchat |
| 4:11 pm |
web20education: |
This week I work at the presentation social media in education #edtech20 #edchat |
| 4:11 pm |
harrisonmike: |
RT @seanbanville: RT @tomwhitby: Simplify+promote district mergers. #edchat | I'm wary of mergers, often management do it 2justify pay rises |
| 4:11 pm |
mattguthrie: |
prob won't happen, but cut testing - several EOY tests not mandated by NCLB cut in our state b/c of $$ #edchat |
| 4:11 pm |
colport: |
@corriekelly @theresawhite Politicians / parents like summative testing too much - society culture needs to change to inform IMO #edchat |
| 4:11 pm |
jpsteltz: |
what about the number of admin in a building? we keep downsizing teacher staff which takes away from students...what about admin? #edchat |
| 4:11 pm |
seanbanville: |
Surely the easiest way to cut costs is to take greater advantage of online resources. #edchat |
| 4:11 pm |
joe_bower: |
@DouglasCrets Why should a school worry about making money? Tell me you are not serious. focus on profit = distract learning #edchat |
| 4:11 pm |
Oh_the_Places: |
RT @theresawhite: @Oh_the_Places Stdnts involvd via surveys interviews town hall meetings. Let them decide wht is reasonable 2 keep. #edchat |
| 4:12 pm |
theresawhite: |
@chrisludwig @tomwhitby district mergers are touchy - these are community identities we are talking about merging. Uncomf. for some #edchat |
| 4:12 pm |
EduTechSmith: |
@chrisludwig @tomwhitby - if my 2 school systems merge it will be one of the largest systems - large systems prove to be bad 4 kids #edchat |
| 4:12 pm |
janwebb21: |
#edchat @colport @theresawhite I agree - though some of us will do that and others won't - danger of two tier ed system?@olafelch |
| 4:12 pm |
seanbanville: |
RT @malcolmbellamy: to quote an old saying we cut arts/music at our peril #edchat |
| 4:12 pm |
akenuam: |
are we talking about cutting costs or reform? because they are too different things. #edchat |
| 4:12 pm |
AntHeald: |
RT @joe_bower: If we have to cut, it makes no sense to cut teaching and learning but keep all the measuring. Testing should go first #edchat |
| 4:12 pm |
Oh_the_Places: |
If students are involved, they need to have authentic voice - not manipulated by adults #edchat |
| 4:12 pm |
olafelch: |
RT @seanbanville: Surely the easiest way to cut costs is to take greater advantage of online resources. #edchat |
| 4:12 pm |
DouglasCrets: |
I have no problem with testing going. I think school should directly impact community, and that's a great test in itself #edchat #edreformer |
| 4:12 pm |
malcolmbellamy: |
when the knives are out we must be prepared to stand up for creativity in education #edchat |
| 4:12 pm |
tomwhitby: |
Encourage and provide methods and stategies for early graduations. #edchat |
| 4:12 pm |
TheNerdyTeacher: |
RT @AntHeald: Maybe reduce the number of expensive leadership posts by distributing leadership less hierarchically? Just thinking. #edchat |
| 4:12 pm |
mattguthrie: |
@aprilabtbalance homeschoolers in NC have to take some std test of our choosing & report score to test #edchat |
| 4:12 pm |
mritzius: |
@thenerdyteacher gotta fix before crises hit #edchat |
| 4:12 pm |
sentenceworks: |
RT @seanbanville: Surely the easiest way to cut costs is to take greater advantage of online resources. #edchat |
| 4:12 pm |
jpsteltz: |
RT @Oh_the_Places: If students are involved, they need to have authentic voice - not manipulated by adults #edchat |
| 4:12 pm |
Oh_the_Places: |
I've seen too many students on news lately "tearfully" repeating what parents told them to say #edchat |
| 4:12 pm |
joe_bower: |
RT @Oh_the_Places: If students are involved, they need to have authentic voice - not manipulated by adults #edchat |
| 4:12 pm |
DouglasCrets: |
@joe_bower It does not distract from learning. When you leave school after K12, what are you going to need to do with your life? #edchat |
| 4:12 pm |
akenuam: |
RT @malcolmbellamy: when the knives are out we must be prepared to stand up for creativity in education #edchat |
| 4:12 pm |
theresawhite: |
RT @tomwhitby: Encourage and provide methods and stategies for early graduations. #edchat |
| 4:12 pm |
EduTechSmith: |
@Oh_the_Places love the idea of having students help design budget cuts - or shall we say budget redesign #edchat |
| 4:12 pm |
elanaleoni: |
@TheNerdyTeacher Perhaps we look at what is sucking up the budget. Cough cough textbooks :) #edchat |
| 4:13 pm |
aprilabtbalance: |
I thought colleges looked at SAT scores, which R different than standardized tests, aren't they? #edchat |
| 4:13 pm |
AlexDLWS: |
When it comes to #tech - edu should invest in employee training, and less on buying "things" ... this adds significant value #edchat |
| 4:13 pm |
Parentella: |
RT @Oh_the_Places: If students are involved, they need to have authentic voice - not manipulated by adults #edchat |
| 4:13 pm |
shirleylacroix: |
RT @seanbanville: RT @malcolmbellamy: to quote an old saying we cut arts/music at our peril - and the Ss suffer! #edchat #edchat |
| 4:13 pm |
DouglasCrets: |
Making money is a skill, and I have learned more about life, my dear Horatio, by trying to make money, then by sitting in a class. #edchat |
| 4:13 pm |
angelbrady: |
RT @SeanBanville: Surely the easiest way to cut costs is to take greater advantage of online resources. #edchat |
| 4:13 pm |
corriekelly: |
#edchat How to impress on parents the importance of real 21st cent learning over importance of basic standardized test scores? |
| 4:13 pm |
reportertanya: |
Surely the easiest way to cut costs is to take greater advantage of online resources. #edchat via @SeanBanville |
| 4:13 pm |
colport: |
@harrisonmike There are a lot of LA's in UK - I can see the benefits of this argument of merging #edchat |
| 4:13 pm |
Aaron_Eyler: |
Why are districts paying for Microsoft Office? With the free tech available, no one should give in to their monopoly. #edchat |
| 4:13 pm |
Oh_the_Places: |
RT @EduTechSmith: @Oh_the_Places love the idea of having students help design budget cuts - or shall we say budget redesign #edchat |
| 4:13 pm |
mritzius: |
@thenerdyteacher every investment has up front cost, but get creative. Maybe rent the roof 2 a power company in xchng 4 free power #edchat |
| 4:13 pm |
Oh_the_Places: |
@EduTechSmith Ohh, like that rewording - budget "redesign" #edchat |
| 4:13 pm |
MissCheska: |
@TheNerdyTeacher It would be interesting if admins were paid on standards created by teachers/faculty, hmm #edchat |
| 4:13 pm |
Parentella: |
RT @corriekelly:How 2impress on parents importance of real 21st cent learning over importance of basic standardized test scores? #edchat |
| 4:13 pm |
mattguthrie: |
@olafelch nustensure have infrastructure in place though - creates a $$ outlay in beginning, thus giving reason not to do online #edchat |
| 4:14 pm |
corriekelly: |
RT @reportertanya: Surely the easiest way to cut costs is to take greater advantage of online resources. #edchat via @SeanBanville |
| 4:14 pm |
DouglasCrets: |
It's a fallacy to say that lessons about profit don't belong in school. Tell that to kids who are poor. W/o equity, they're poor. #edchat |
| 4:14 pm |
colonelb: |
Cut out all the unfunded fed and state regs that amount to no more than power grabs. #edchat |
| 4:14 pm |
TheNerdyTeacher: |
@jpsteltz - Yes please! We have four in our HS building and another 4 at the other HS. They both have Secs. #edchat We cant cut there? |
| 4:14 pm |
VanessaSCassie: |
It's like anything - I believe there is enough money, it's just being mismanaged #edchat |
| 4:14 pm |
akenuam: |
RT @MissCheska: @TheNerdyTeacher It would be interesting if admins were paid on standards created by teachers/faculty, hmm #edchat |
| 4:14 pm |
theresawhite: |
RT @reportertanya: Surely the easiest way to cut costs is to take greater advantage of online resources. #edchat via @SeanBanville #edchat |
| 4:14 pm |
Oh_the_Places: |
RT @EduTechSmith: i will have to say hats off to all those who make free web 2.0 tools for students to use - that saves lots of $$$ #edchat |
| 4:14 pm |
olafelch: |
@AntHeald @joe_bower OK, but what are you going to replace testing with? What about the costs of the unemployed testers? #edchat |
| 4:14 pm |
mritzius: |
@thenerdyteacher Another example is 1:1 computing with primary resources as focus over text books. Initial cost is high but .... #edchat |
| 4:14 pm |
MrR0g3rs: |
@elanaleoni although textbooks are expensive a district's greatest cost is people-salaries/insurance. that is why they always go 1st #edchat |
| 4:14 pm |
corriekelly: |
RT @colonelb: Cut out all the unfunded fed and state regs that amount to no more than power grabs. #edchat |
| 4:14 pm |
janwebb21: |
@colport @theresawhite @olafelch taking part in #edchat ideal example of taking responsibility for own cpd |
| 4:14 pm |
DouglasCrets: |
My thoughts about profit include community focused aid, helping the poor, bringing tech into classroom. Enabling students. #edchat |
| 4:14 pm |
mritzius: |
@thenerdyteacher ....constantly buying textbooks is more expensive #edchat |
| 4:14 pm |
Oh_the_Places: |
RT @EduTechSmith: what about saving $$$ by all these free PD that are occuring online - stream those at inservice #edchat |
| 4:14 pm |
Parentella: |
Schools could save $$ by using freeware and shareware for little to no $$. Why use MS office instead of MS reader? #edchat |
| 4:14 pm |
seanbanville: |
RT @VanessaSCassie: It's like anything - I believe there is enough money, it's just being mismanaged #edchat |
| 4:15 pm |
theresawhite: |
RT @malcolmbellamy: to quote an old saying we cut arts/music at our peril - and the Ss suffer! #edchat #edchat |
| 4:15 pm |
elanaleoni: |
@seanbanville Yes! Schools need to lift their filters and work in the cloud. #edchat |
| 4:15 pm |
shirleylacroix: |
@akenuam but why cut one type of program (i.e., arts) why not across the board? #edchat #edchat |
| 4:15 pm |
janwebb21: |
RT @EduTechSmith: i will have to say hats off to all those who make free web 2.0 tools for students to use - that saves lots of $$$ #edchat |
| 4:15 pm |
TheNerdyTeacher: |
@elanaleoni - No kidding. I'm trying 2 push 4 a new set that have online versions. Buy 1 class set of 40 & kids cn access at home #edchat |
| 4:15 pm |
joe_bower: |
teachers need to fight the cuts as much as possible. Alberta Teachers' Association stopped cuts here. http://www.investinschools.ca #edchat |
| 4:15 pm |
akenuam: |
anyone used the open innovation portal to suggest reform? http://bit.ly/aYsVjO #edchat |
| 4:15 pm |
EduTechSmith: |
@shirleylacroix read A Whole New Mind-& lrn how bad that is 4 schools 2 b cutting the Arts-Creativity in jobs is a requirement #edchat |
| 4:15 pm |
olafelch: |
@janwebb21 I think there is already a multi-tiered ed system. #edchat |
| 4:15 pm |
malcolmbellamy: |
the student voice is important in terms of cuts will they want cuts in arts? #edchat |
| 4:15 pm |
colport: |
@janwebb21 Phew....difficult to keep up with #edchat - Good though :-) |
| 4:15 pm |
VanessaSCassie: |
Oh, and let's not forget that like most hierarchical business models, there's too much expensive padding at the top #edchat |
| 4:15 pm |
Oh_the_Places: |
Or do more in-house PD - there are many effective teachers who can present rather than big $$ spent on "consultants" #edchat |
| 4:15 pm |
JaneBalvanz: |
On and reading to get up to speed. #edchat |
| 4:15 pm |
seanbanville: |
RT @Oh_the_Places: RT @EduTechSmith: hats off to all those who make free web 2.0 tools for students to use - that saves lots of $$$ #edchat |
| 4:15 pm |
mritzius: |
@janwebb21 of course they need guidance, I'm not advocating that we toss them in a room and say "have at it" #edchat |
| 4:15 pm |
DouglasCrets: |
Profit is not a dirty word. Teach kids how to use scarcity in resources to make a company. Enable intellect with real life probs. #edchat |
| 4:15 pm |
colonelb: |
RT @tomwhitby: Simplify and promote district mergers. #edchat Only if they can prove savings up front. |
| 4:15 pm |
mattguthrie: |
@MrR0g3rs however, if long term savings charted, no textbooks might still save more money #edchat |
| 4:15 pm |
akenuam: |
@shirleylacroix huh? i didnt say anything about cuts. #edchat |
| 4:16 pm |
MissCheska: |
RT @Parentella: I would argue that tough times would signal a need to step up educational development to aid in the future recovery #edchat |
| 4:16 pm |
lisamonthie: |
@corriekelly i agree: I c articles about students who passed their state test but cant handle college http://tinyurl.com/ylkqmop #edchat |
| 4:16 pm |
AlexDLWS: |
The best thing edu's could cut is teaching locked-in applications, methods, programs, etc ... Start teaching creativity and thinking #edchat |
| 4:16 pm |
TheNerdyTeacher: |
@MissCheska - Yes! Any eval of Admins would be good for my district. Seems we have no oversight for them. #edchat |
| 4:16 pm |
olafelch: |
RT @malcolmbellamy: when the knives are out we must be prepared to stand up for creativity in education #edchat Excellent point! |
| 4:16 pm |
cspiezio: |
RT @Oh_the_Places: Or do more in-house PD - there are many effective tchrs who can present rather than big $$ spent on "consultants" #edchat |
| 4:16 pm |
janwebb21: |
@colport like doing sudoku! #edchat |
| 4:16 pm |
chrisludwig: |
@theresawhite @tomwhitby District mergers are a must when lots of small districts duplicate services. Not likely without state input #edchat |
| 4:16 pm |
theresawhite: |
RT @Oh_the_Places: do more in-house PD - there are many effective teachers who can present rather than big $$ spent on "consultants" #edchat |
| 4:16 pm |
jpsteltz: |
we r facing cuts, not rehiring 4 teaching spots vacated by retirees, but admin perceived as untouchable.y not re-evaluate EVERYONE?? #edchat |
| 4:16 pm |
DouglasCrets: |
If budget cutting is a real life problem, don't avoid it through labor action. Enable solutions through collaboration. #edtech #edchat |
| 4:16 pm |
mattguthrie: |
@MrR0g3rs @elanaleoni tchrs could go w/out txtbooks by applying some research skills #edchat |
| 4:16 pm |
k_shelton: |
@malcolmbellamy the short answer to that is No. But the Arts are not tested, hence them being cut first #edchat |
| 4:16 pm |
tomwhitby: |
Allow students to utilize their personal laptops and new IPads. Saves $$$ #edchat |
| 4:16 pm |
seanbanville: |
It will come & students will love it RT @elanaleoni: @seanbanville Yes! Schools need to lift their filters and work in the cloud. #edchat |
| 4:16 pm |
olafelch: |
RT @janwebb21: @colport @theresawhite @olafelch taking part in #edchat ideal example of taking responsibility for own cpd |
| 4:16 pm |
colport: |
@Oh_the_Places In house PD - How many online PD sessions have you been involved in recently? #edchat - I have been watching 4/5 recently! |
| 4:16 pm |
MissCheska: |
@Oh_the_Places Give them outlet to express their thoughts, allow them to attend board ed meetings, etc #edchat |
| 4:16 pm |
janwebb21: |
@olafelch but is multi tiered ed system what we want? don't we want all our kids to have great opportunities #edchat |
| 4:16 pm |
TheNerdyTeacher: |
@mritzius - Agreed. Some of our texts are so old they do not have online components. #edchat |
| 4:16 pm |
jpsteltz: |
RT @cspiezio: RT @Oh_the_Places: Or do more in-house PD - there are many effective tchrs who can present rather than big $$ spent on "consultants" #edchat |
| 4:16 pm |
mritzius: |
@olafelch Flat leadership model centered around PLCs reduces the need for admins #edchat |
| 4:16 pm |
cspiezio: |
@malcolmbellamy you bring up an interesting point... students know what they want - but is it what they need??? #edchat |
| 4:17 pm |
seanbanville: |
RT @olafelch: RT @malcolmbellamy: when the knives are out we must be prepared to stand up for creativity in education #edchat gr8 point! |
| 4:17 pm |
MrR0g3rs: |
#edchat cutting expendibles isn't going 2 cut it b/c savings isn't enough. We need 2 loudly push 4 ed funding reform. Race 2 Equity! |
| 4:17 pm |
lisamonthie: |
@Oh_the_Places I agree: do more PD like a train the trainers type PD; then let the teachers lead their peers #edchat |
| 4:17 pm |
olafelch: |
RT @Oh_the_Places: Or do more in-house PD - there are many effective tchrs who can present rather than big $$ spent on "consultants" #edchat |
| 4:17 pm |
pysproblem81: |
RT @olafelch: RT @malcolmbellamy: when the knives are out we must be prepared to stand up for creativity in education #edchat Excllnt point! |
| 4:17 pm |
aprilabtbalance: |
@tomwhitby Here in LA, a lot of people think splitting LAUSD would be beneficial. Depends on the district. #edchat |
| 4:17 pm |
corriekelly: |
#edchat Student literacy rates are falling across the country-how can funds be channeled to fix this? |
| 4:17 pm |
cristama: |
RT @theresawhite: RT @Oh_the_Places: do more in-house PD - there are many effective teachers who can present rather than big $$ spent on "consultants" #edchat |
| 4:17 pm |
boundstaffpress: |
Our district is reducing cost by consolidating buildings and reducing admin. and teachers alike. #edchat |
| 4:17 pm |
VanessaSCassie: |
@Oh_the_Places Consultants get big bucks? News to me...lol ;) #edchat |
| 4:17 pm |
theresawhite: |
@Oh_the_Places we do a lot of inhouse PD, cost-effective but not always as useful as hoped. #edchat |
| 4:17 pm |
k_shelton: |
@cspiezio @Oh_the_Places I have been pushing for that at my school for years. Problem is the jobs/consultants get the board's ear #edchat |
| 4:17 pm |
corriekelly: |
RT @lisamonthie: @Oh_the_Places I agree: do more PD like a train the trainers type PD; then let the teachers lead their peers #edchat |
| 4:17 pm |
TheNerdyTeacher: |
If we start letting kids bring their tech to school , we need to open up the system. Are districts willing to do that? #edchat |
| 4:17 pm |
MissCheska: |
@colport Maybe not ALL summative testing, but call for a mix of both summ/formative #edchat |
| 4:17 pm |
janwebb21: |
@mritzius #edchat overall increasing pupil involvement/engagement will empower them and build skills based knowledge/understanding |
| 4:17 pm |
shirleylacroix: |
@colport and how were those online PD sessions? Some that I have had to watch are boring! #edchat #edchat |
| 4:18 pm |
Joga5: |
Re In house CPD a group of us have been using the Guskey model of CPD evaluation to support schools in ensuring sustainability #edchat |
| 4:18 pm |
reyjunco: |
Using multiple video chats in education http://bit.ly/9JihxO #sachat #edchat #edtech |
| 4:18 pm |
MrR0g3rs: |
@mattguthrie but u & i know that most bean counters rarely look at the long term #edchat |
| 4:18 pm |
Oh_the_Places: |
At our school, we have brought in 1 "expert" for PD in the last 3 years. Rest of PD done in house by staff #edchat |
| 4:18 pm |
EduTechSmith: |
I know people who work at my local board making 3x what a teacher makes - is that really necessary #edchat |
| 4:18 pm |
seanbanville: |
I wonder how often teachers are asked how they could make better use of school funds?? Could save millions. #edchat |
| 4:18 pm |
olafelch: |
@mritzius There is a danger of inconsistency in local solutions though. #edchat |
| 4:18 pm |
DouglasCrets: |
RT @olafelch: RT @janwebb21: @colport @theresawhite @olafelch taking part in #edchat ideal example of taking responsibility for own cpd |
| 4:18 pm |
malcolmbellamy: |
@cspiezio I think there is convincing research that creativity helps all congnitive development #edchat |
| 4:18 pm |
k_shelton: |
@aprilabtbalance It would be beneficial to split up at this point. #edchat |
| 4:18 pm |
VanessaSCassie: |
Exactly! RT @TheNerdyTeacher: If we start letting kids bring their tech to school , we need to open up the system. #edchat |
| 4:18 pm |
tomwhitby: |
Shift from Textbook content to internet content Save $$$ #edchat |
| 4:18 pm |
colport: |
@shirleylacroix Pick and choose what suits #edchat |
| 4:18 pm |
akenuam: |
one of the #1 reforms can happen in teacher, parents, administrators, & students minds - Raise expectations of our students. #edchat |
| 4:18 pm |
joe_bower: |
Remember how budget cuts work: 1.cut something 2. wait and listen for squeaky wheel 3. wheel squeaks 4. cuts retracted. #edchat |
| 4:18 pm |
seanbanville: |
RT @lisamonthie: @Oh_the_Places I agree: do more PD like a train the trainers type PD; then let the teachers lead their peers #edchat |
| 4:18 pm |
MrR0g3rs: |
@olafelch @Oh_the_Places or more free PD like Teachmeet! #edchat |
| 4:18 pm |
Oh_the_Places: |
RT @Aaron_Eyler: y R districts paying 4 Microsoft Office? w/ the free tech available, no 1 shld giv in 2 their monopoly. #edchat |
| 4:18 pm |
mritzius: |
@thenerdyteacher Who needs online books when you have moodle, google, nings, PLNs, and, and, and....Why bother w/ the cost? #edchat |
| 4:18 pm |
boundstaffpress: |
We are changing our focus away from textbooks and towards technology as a cost savings plan. Much easier to write a grant for tech. #edchat |
| 4:18 pm |
mattguthrie: |
good thing about $$ cuts is tchrs forced to think differently, starting w/copy allotment, causing them to rethink methods as result #edchat |
| 4:18 pm |
SmartEdServices: |
@corriekelly How 2 show importance of 21st cent. learning- New test measures digital literacy 4 tomorrow's jobs http://bit.ly/b61BbU #edchat |
| 4:19 pm |
AntHeald: |
@olafelch In UK we got rid of national tests at14: I don't see many unemployed testers: were overpressed teachers(&student teachers) #edchat |
| 4:19 pm |
Oh_the_Places: |
@VanessaSCassie LOL - glad you can take it in stride :-) #edchat |
| 4:19 pm |
VanessaSCassie: |
RT @seanbanville: I wonder how often teachers are asked how they could make better use of school funds?? Could save millions. #edchat |
| 4:19 pm |
theresawhite: |
@Oh_the_Places we aren't using our full potential or most interesting/appropriate topics. #edchat |
| 4:19 pm |
elanaleoni: |
@joe_bower I don't think its wrong to be entrepreneurial. @coolcatteacher does this well and inspires her students as a result. #edchat |
| 4:19 pm |
olafelch: |
@AntHeald But the UK still has (the more useful) GCSE and A level testing. #edchat |
| 4:19 pm |
owenpeery: |
@SeanBanville #edchat open source software |
| 4:19 pm |
TheNerdyTeacher: |
If teachers were asked to run PD so the money could be spent of resources or jobs, people would line up to help. We are expert too. #edchat |
| 4:19 pm |
nlogle: |
Too bad funding education isn't as important to our leaders as bailing out banks, auto ind, and healthcare. #edchat |
| 4:19 pm |
jpsteltz: |
what about athletic budgets?? #edchat |
| 4:19 pm |
mattguthrie: |
@seanbanville tchrs asked in my school at least, but not the norm #edchat |
| 4:19 pm |
DeronDurflinger: |
@tbfurman Thanks for the shout out about better use of funds #vanmeter #edchat |
| 4:19 pm |
VanessaSCassie: |
RT @joe_bower: Remember how budget cuts work:1.cut something 2. wait and listen for squeaky wheel 3. wheel squeaks 4. cuts retracted #edchat |
| 4:19 pm |
theresawhite: |
@mritzius Nings, Moodle and others are ALL blocked in our district. GoogleDocs were just unblocked in December. #edchat |
| 4:19 pm |
Oh_the_Places: |
I still remember first experience with PD - hypnotist presents to "excite staff about new year" What a waste of $$ #edchat |
| 4:19 pm |
cspiezio: |
@k_shelton how can we make the board take teachers jobs seriously? its a little insulting! #edchat |
| 4:20 pm |
jpsteltz: |
RT @boundstaffpress: We are changing our focus away from textbooks and towards technology as a cost savings plan. Much easier to write a grant for tech. #edchat |
| 4:20 pm |
janwebb21: |
@mritzius @olafelch #edchat Is inconsistency an inevitable consequence when funding reduced - in learning experiences, prof dev, expectation |
| 4:20 pm |
EduTechSmith: |
@shirleylacroix than you are participating wrong. try doing some in real time. #edchat |
| 4:20 pm |
TheNerdyTeacher: |
@mritzius - Most of my stuff comes from online sources. I'm an English Teacher, so I have it a bit easier than other subjects. #edchat |
| 4:20 pm |
shirleylacroix: |
@mritzius but what about standards-based curriculum. Do Ts know how to use the tools to develop on their own without txtbks? #edchat #edchat |
| 4:20 pm |
k_shelton: |
RT @nlogle: Too bad funding education isn't as important to our leaders as bailing out banks, auto ind, and healthcare. #edchat |
| 4:20 pm |
boundstaffpress: |
@TheNerdyTeacher Our tech dept is opening up. We are led by the great open minded @jehilton #edchat |
| 4:20 pm |
mritzius: |
@olafelch Within each PLC, consistency goes through the roof between classrooms. Doing it now. #edchat |
| 4:20 pm |
MissCheska: |
@tomwhitby Agree w/ some district mergers - ie. rural/suburban - why have 3 buildings in 1 district? #edchat |
| 4:20 pm |
MrR0g3rs: |
@VanessaSCassie @joe_bower but is that system fair to the wheel that has no voice #edchat |
| 4:20 pm |
seanbanville: |
RT @owenpeery: #edchat open source software || Agreed Own - gr8 point - millions saved in replacing MS Windows |
| 4:20 pm |
theresawhite: |
@jpsteltz our food service program is completely self-sustaining. Athletics should be, too. Either pay-to-play or fundraise. #edchat |
| 4:20 pm |
EduTechSmith: |
save money by loosening the belt on the filter :-) #edchat |
| 4:20 pm |
mattguthrie: |
@MrR0g3rs @olafelch @Oh_the_Places all this talk about PD - pay for PD that promotes better tching AND budget savings #edchat |
| 4:20 pm |
joe_bower: |
To save costs, Alberta eliminated written portion of standardized tests and kept only multiple choice portion <--- cheaper - SCARY! #edchat |
| 4:20 pm |
Oh_the_Places: |
@theresawhite So true - just finished sending a survey to staff - 2 tech classes left - what would you like to learn? #edchat |
| 4:20 pm |
Joga5: |
RT @joe_bower: Remember how budget cuts work: 1.cut something 2. wait and listen for squeaky wheel 3. wheel squeaks 4. cuts retracted. #edchat |
| 4:20 pm |
VanessaSCassie: |
I believe Ed budgets are like household budgets - get rid of the extra unnecessary items and focus on whats important #edchat |
| 4:20 pm |
olafelch: |
@VanessaSCassie By the same token, I wonder how many teachers know what the heating bill for their school is? #edchat |
| 4:21 pm |
akenuam: |
budgets aside, how can we close the achievement gap? http://bit.ly/ap3oVZ #edchat |
| 4:21 pm |
mattguthrie: |
@jpsteltz MS sports on the table in my district right now #edchat |
| 4:21 pm |
chrisludwig: |
@boundstaffpress It helps that our technology purchases are usually from separate $, although convincing public to buy tech = tricky #edchat |
| 4:21 pm |
aaw1976: |
@thenerdyteacher If the district would relax some of the controls and stop paying for industry software we could save money #edchat |
| 4:21 pm |
Oh_the_Places: |
@MrR0g3rs TM still needs funding tho for support needs. Love the format for presenting #edchat |
| 4:21 pm |
tbfurman: |
RT @Oh_the_Places: I still remember first experience with PD - hypnotist presents to "excite staff about new year" #edchat Lol... no way! |
| 4:21 pm |
jpsteltz: |
high school athletics, in particular, are beginning to mirror college athletics.what r essentials for high school athletic program? #edchat |
| 4:21 pm |
seanbanville: |
RT @tomwhitby: Shift from recording data on paper to digital. Save $$$ #edchat |
| 4:21 pm |
EduTechSmith: |
@k_shelton what about getting Toyota's penalty $$ donated to school systems - or any large corporation penalty $$ #edchat |
| 4:21 pm |
janwebb21: |
#edchat tech provides us with opportunities for collaboration and co-consturction of knowledge - new ways of learning aren't nec expensive |
| 4:21 pm |
malcolmbellamy: |
RT @nlogle: Too bad funding education isn't as important to our leaders as bailing out banks, auto ind, and healthcare. #edchat |
| 4:21 pm |
k_shelton: |
@cspiezio Vote!! Problem is teachers tend to follow the union suggestions and the union only suggests based upon labor policy #edchat |
| 4:21 pm |
MissCheska: |
@theresawhite True, and some don't want to compromise what's already worked for them #edchat |
| 4:21 pm |
VanessaSCassie: |
@iangowans Good point! And those doing the mismanagement are often those who make the spending decisions in the first place...*sigh* #edchat |
| 4:21 pm |
seanbanville: |
Good Q RT @akenuam: budgets aside, how can we close the achievement gap? http://bit.ly/ap3oVZ #edchat |
| 4:21 pm |
Oh_the_Places: |
@tbfurman Yep, sad. 3 days before school started. Locked doors so teachers couldnt leave #edchat |
| 4:21 pm |
theresawhite: |
@olafelch we know our heating info because we went on a "green" streak last year. Temp control, no fridge, coffee pot etc. #edchat |
| 4:22 pm |
boundstaffpress: |
I support pay to play athletics. Problem we have is local poverty would eliminate most sports. #edchat |
| 4:22 pm |
seanbanville: |
RT @nlogle: Too bad funding education isn't as important to our leaders as bailing out banks, auto ind, and healthcare. #edchat |
| 4:22 pm |
mritzius: |
@theresawhite That is a travesty & U should fight like hell 2 change it. Tchrs work 4 kids, everyone else works 4 you, including IT #edchat |
| 4:22 pm |
colport: |
How about principals/headteachers running more than one school to save $£$£$ #edchat - I'd be happy that mine was away more often! LOL |
| 4:22 pm |
akenuam: |
RT @nlogle: Too bad funding education isn't as important to our leaders as bailing out banks, auto ind, and healthcare. #edchat |
| 4:22 pm |
lisamonthie: |
@seanbanville yes but most colleges ( least here) use MS Office: we aren't preparing our students 4 real world by using open office #edchat |
| 4:22 pm |
k_shelton: |
@EduTechSmith brilliant suggestion. Or why not make their penalty donating equipment and $$ to Ed. for the next 4 years #edchat |
| 4:22 pm |
joe_bower: |
No need to census test every kid. Sampling stu is good solution to cutting testing costs. Finland does it. http://bit.ly/cAW6WM #edchat |
| 4:22 pm |
corriekelly: |
#edchat I received a box of textbooks last week from a company that hopes we'll purchase school sets. Seriously? You must be kidding. |
| 4:22 pm |
k_shelton: |
RT @EduTechSmith: @k_shelton what about getting Toyota's penalty $$ donated to school systems - or any large corporation penalty $$ #edchat |
| 4:22 pm |
theresawhite: |
@olafelch each building had to show decrease in heating/colling cost each year. #edchat |
| 4:22 pm |
olafelch: |
How about putting photvoltaic panels on all those acres of flat roofing? #edchat |
| 4:22 pm |
seanbanville: |
RT @mattguthrie: @seanbanville tchrs asked in my school at least, but not the norm #edchat |
| 4:22 pm |
corriekelly: |
RT @akenuam: RT @nlogle: Too bad funding education isn't as important to our leaders as bailing out banks, auto ind, and healthcare. #edchat |
| 4:22 pm |
EduTechSmith: |
@thenerdyteacher If the district would relax some of the controls and stop paying for industry software we could save money #edchat |
| 4:22 pm |
TheNerdyTeacher: |
@aaw1976 - Not only that, but the whole system would run smoother for all. #edchat |
| 4:22 pm |
ASCD_Inservice: |
@TheNerdyTeacher like the idea of teacher-run PD--any examples of schools / districts running w/this? #edchat |
| 4:22 pm |
janwebb21: |
#edchat re-thinking curriculum creatively, using partnerships effectively, making most of web 2.0 etc all help when budgets tight |
| 4:22 pm |
jpsteltz: |
I believe in athletics as learning tool, extended classroom...but can't we do that through intramurals rather than school-to-school? #edchat |
| 4:23 pm |
mritzius: |
@thenerdyteacher I'm a science teacher, currently teaching bio and physical science. I have 15 textbooks 4 100 kids, never an issue #edchat |
| 4:23 pm |
theresawhite: |
@mritzius I can't tell you how hard I've fought so far. Not working at the moment. It's sad that the students can't collaborate! #edchat |
| 4:23 pm |
VanessaSCassie: |
@bircherd I've heard that excuse too, but I'm not quite buying it - kids can already access 'banned' websites w/proxy breakers #edchat |
| 4:23 pm |
owenpeery: |
@SeanBanville #edchat not to mention Linux systems and Linux networking, how many schools still use XP? |
| 4:23 pm |
MissCheska: |
@VanessaSCassie Good point abt mismanagement - how then to mainstream and keep accountable? #edchat |
| 4:23 pm |
janwebb21: |
@colport #edchat isn't that how collaborations and federations are meant to be working in UK? |
| 4:23 pm |
EduTechSmith: |
I wonder if the schools did go "green" - how much would that save? #edchat |
| 4:23 pm |
cspiezio: |
RT @TheNerdyTeacher: If tchrs were asked to run PD so the $ could be spent of resources or jobs, ppl would line up to help. #edchat |
| 4:23 pm |
aprilabtbalance: |
Is it possible if budgets were student-driven, then more actual learning could take place? Isn't passion a great motivator? #edchat |
| 4:23 pm |
MrR0g3rs: |
#edchat what's a districts supply budget? What's personnel budget? 1 is 10 times other. Only real reform will save jobs, not google |
| 4:23 pm |
seanbanville: |
@corriekelly Textbooks (+ associated Teacher's Book, CD, resource book....) greatly overpriced #edchat |
| 4:23 pm |
Oh_the_Places: |
RT @tomwhitby: Allow students to utilize their personal laptops and new IPads. Saves $$$ #edchat //Don't forget the banned cell phones |
| 4:23 pm |
corriekelly: |
@ASCD_Inservice #edchat BEST PD we have had began w/ google doc interest survey, then sessions were led by teachers. |
| 4:23 pm |
mritzius: |
@shirleylacroix If a teacher is relying on a textbook, then they ain't teaching #edchat |
| 4:23 pm |
VanessaSCassie: |
@bircherd It's too bad, cuz it definitely could help ease the cost of new tech in schools! #edchat |
| 4:23 pm |
olafelch: |
@theresawhite I wish the teachers here were so aware - never seen so much wasted energy here. #edchat |
| 4:23 pm |
Parentella: |
RT @janwebb21: re-thinking curriculum creatively,using partnerships effectively,making most of web 2.0 2 help when budgets tight #edchat |
| 4:23 pm |
seanbanville: |
RT @EduTechSmith: I wonder if the schools did go "green" - how much would that save? #edchat |
| 4:23 pm |
TheNerdyTeacher: |
@ASCD_Inservice - There have been times where I have run some PD for SmartBoards and other Web2.0 tools. #edchat |
| 4:23 pm |
Oh_the_Places: |
@MissCheska YES - love it! #edchat |
| 4:23 pm |
akenuam: |
LOVE IT - RT @janwebb21 re-thinking curriculum creatively, using partnerships effectively, making most of web 2.0 help tightbudgets #edchat |
| 4:24 pm |
Parentella: |
RT @EduTechSmith: I wonder if the schools did go "green" - how much would that save? #edchat |
| 4:24 pm |
malcolmbellamy: |
pd can be powerful, national/international and free like #edchat |
| 4:24 pm |
theresawhite: |
@ASCD_Inservice We have teacher-run PD for 2 of our 5 days, but it is small sessions on blackboard, PowerSchool, etc. #edchat |
| 4:24 pm |
seanbanville: |
RT @malcolmbellamy: pd can be powerful, national/international and free like #edchat |
| 4:24 pm |
k_shelton: |
@thenerdyteacher @cspiezio I'd like to see all School Board members challenged to spend 15% of their time in classrooms teaching!! #edchat |
| 4:24 pm |
mattguthrie: |
@jpsteltz at my MS we are already drawing up intramural plans to somehow salvage athletics if we need to #edchat |
| 4:24 pm |
colport: |
@janwebb21 I have not seen much evidence of these collaborations yet, have you? #edchat |
| 4:24 pm |
VanessaSCassie: |
@MissCheska That's the million dollar question! ;-) #edchat |
| 4:24 pm |
EduTechSmith: |
our system save $$$$ on adjusting bus schedules - bus companies R ripping off the tax payers #edchat |
| 4:24 pm |
corriekelly: |
@aprilabtbalance #edchat We've been talking about passion-driven teaching in our district-convos that could really lead to something big |
| 4:24 pm |
Oh_the_Places: |
@jpsteltz Ha - athletics are usually last one touched around here #edchat |
| 4:24 pm |
mrkampmann: |
RT @tomwhitby: Standardized Tests are too costly to keep. Cut Standardized testing to save $$$. #edchat |
| 4:24 pm |
mritzius: |
@theresawhite get a bunch of likeminded people and demand, demand, demand. Interrupt BOE meetings if you must go that far #edchat |
| 4:24 pm |
aaw1976: |
@thenerdyteacher If they would just listen to the people that use the resources. with savings we could get more equip or staff. #edchat |
| 4:24 pm |
theresawhite: |
@olafelch Ours began 3 or 4 years ago in an attempt to save jobs. District saved $240,000 in 1st year. That's a few teachers! #edchat |
| 4:24 pm |
TheNerdyTeacher: |
@aaw1976 - Some Boards assume Free stuff online is not as good as $$ stuff. If it's so good, why would it be free? #edchat |
| 4:25 pm |
elanaleoni: |
Are there any admins/district level particpating in #edchat 2day? Would be interesting to hear their thoughts. |
| 4:25 pm |
jpsteltz: |
we need 2 look on periphery 1st (i.e., athletics) b4 we cut costs in learning...I have 4 reasons at home 2 keep all aca prgrms #edchat |
| 4:25 pm |
iangowans: |
Teachers need to advocate at local level so school boards can make good choices #edchat |
| 4:25 pm |
cspiezio: |
@k_shelton lol i dont know if they could handle it! #edchat |
| 4:25 pm |
seanbanville: |
RT @k_shelton: @thenerdyteacher @cspiezio I'd like 2 c all School Board members spend 15% of their time in classrooms teaching!! #edchat |
| 4:25 pm |
bcahrens: |
@lisamonthie MS Office/Google Docs/Open Office- shouldn't the skill set be the same? it's not about the tool. #edchat |
| 4:25 pm |
janwebb21: |
@Parentella @Oh_the_Places #edchat that is esp hard with younger children/those with less experience |
| 4:25 pm |
cspiezio: |
RT @iangowans: Teachers need to advocate at local level so school boards can make good choices #edchat |
| 4:25 pm |
EduTechSmith: |
board members could serve time to help tutor & afterschool programs - enhancing education - benefits in long run #edchat |
| 4:25 pm |
MissCheska: |
@Oh_the_Places Yes, it goes back to encouraging teachers to grow as leaders & creating in-house supportive lrning systems #edchat |
| 4:25 pm |
VanessaSCassie: |
HA Good point! RT @olafelch @VanessaSCassie By the same token,I wonder how many tchrs know what the heating bill for their schl is? #edchat |
| 4:25 pm |
theresawhite: |
@mritzius absolutely. That's the next (last) step I believe! I've already gone to tech director and curriculum directors. #edchat |
| 4:25 pm |
janwebb21: |
@akenuam have had to do some of that due to tight budgets already! #edchat |
| 4:25 pm |
owenpeery: |
#edchat with Ubuntu students could always have access to the latest and most powerful tools and software, can we say that with current state |
| 4:25 pm |
Oh_the_Places: |
@EduTechSmith We went green with our new addition - can see cost savings on solar water heater on computer display #edchat |
| 4:26 pm |
corriekelly: |
@elanaleoni #edchat I see some but won't call out names...yet :-) |
| 4:26 pm |
olafelch: |
RT @k_shelton: @thenerdyteacher @cspiezio I'd like to see all School Board members spend 15% of their time in class teaching!! #edchat |
| 4:26 pm |
mritzius: |
RT @iangowans: Teachers need to advocate at local level so school boards can make good choices #edchat -Yep!! |
| 4:26 pm |
joe_bower: |
Did anyone else see the $$ Deleware is spending on DATA cops so they could get RttT $ ? http://bit.ly/c07Stx #edchat |
| 4:26 pm |
TheNerdyTeacher: |
@k_shelton - My goodness, they would freak out. RE: Board members in the classroom. #edchat |
| 4:26 pm |
seanbanville: |
What would you actually cut completely? #edchat |
| 4:26 pm |
jpsteltz: |
what about getting admin in classrooms as part of their 'duty' for part of the school day? #edchat |
| 4:26 pm |
hilld: |
#edchat our photocopying bill is outrageous. Asked my teachers to consider alternatives. |
| 4:26 pm |
paulawhite: |
@mattguthrie My kids practice math problems on the tables with dry erase markers, then wipe clean with antibacterial wipes. #edchat |
| 4:26 pm |
teacher6th: |
program idea for helping teachers beat budget restrictions: http://www.donorschoose.org/twt-p/ #edchat |
| 4:26 pm |
stangea: |
@tomwhitby #edchat shift textbooks to newsprint (aka TV guide) and save a bundle, recycle, revise and renew annually. But that would be easy |
| 4:26 pm |
VanessaSCassie: |
Oh yeah...not good RT @boundstaffpress @VanessaSCassie Art is usually marked as unnecessary. Unnecessary not the same as worthless. #edchat |
| 4:26 pm |
aprilabtbalance: |
@corriekelly Great 2 hear! Most of us R much more apt to read/research when we care abt the subject. #edchat |
| 4:26 pm |
olafelch: |
RT @mritzius: RT @iangowans: Teachers need to advocate at local level so school boards can make good choices #edchat -Yep!! |
| 4:26 pm |
elanaleoni: |
@theresawhite That's another gr8 way to save $. I've seen schools save a lot w gardens. #edchat |
| 4:26 pm |
chrisludwig: |
Unfortunately most budget-cutting decisions seem to be being made by small groups of admin. What processes work to involve teachers? #edchat |
| 4:26 pm |
TheNerdyTeacher: |
@k_shelton - As hard as all teachers work, there are some that think we do not do enough and we are overpaid. #edchat |
| 4:27 pm |
Oh_the_Places: |
@janwebb21 Even youngest students have input. If we don't teach students about economics are we preparing them for the future #edchat |
| 4:27 pm |
mritzius: |
@theresawhite don't go alone though. Strength in numbers, hard to say no to a group #edchat |
| 4:27 pm |
tomwhitby: |
Provide transportation only for those who actually use it and not for potential users. Saves $$$ #edchat |
| 4:27 pm |
seanbanville: |
Find ways to reduce spending while hiring more teachers. #edchat |
| 4:27 pm |
janwebb21: |
@colport I only know one federation in our county; our head covered another school when their head was ill; ....... #edchat |
| 4:27 pm |
malcolmbellamy: |
an opportunity of cuts may well be teachers using online collaboration as a source of support and pd #edchat |
| 4:27 pm |
MSR_7: |
#edchat How about rewarding teachers for something other than meaningless, demoralizing test scores? |
| 4:27 pm |
web20education: |
RT @DUMACORNELLUCIA: Why teachers must use Social Media in education , #edtech20 , #edchat ? http://bit.ly/5MljMZ . Please repply here http://bit.ly/cNd3z2 |
| 4:27 pm |
bcahrens: |
@k_shelton I would support assisting the teacher, but I don't want the board members instructing my kids alone. #edchat |
| 4:27 pm |
olafelch: |
@TheNerdyTeacher Board members in the classroom is about as scary as teachers working in the commercial world. #edchat |
| 4:27 pm |
k_shelton: |
@thenerdyteacher Let's force the boards to work with the resources, cuts, and conditions we have to. They can show us how it's done #edchat |
| 4:27 pm |
mattguthrie: |
RT @paulawhite: @mattguthrie My kids practice math problems on tables with dry erase markers, then wipe clean w/antibacterial wipes #edchat |
| 4:27 pm |
colport: |
RT @hilld: #edchat our photocopying bill is outrageous. <--We should Imagine life without these machines! |
| 4:28 pm |
VanessaSCassie: |
Ok, thanks to @boundstaffpress I've revised my opinion -- Boards should get rid of 'worthless' items, not 'unnecessary' #edchat |
| 4:28 pm |
Oh_the_Places: |
RT @seanbanville: What would you actually cut completely? #edchat |
| 4:28 pm |
jpsteltz: |
RT @seanbanville: Find ways to reduce spending while hiring more teachers. #edchat |
| 4:28 pm |
boundstaffpress: |
RT @joe_bower: Did anyone else see the $$ Deleware is spending on DATA cops so they could get RttT $ ? http://bit.ly/c07Stx #edchat |
| 4:28 pm |
EduTechSmith: |
@Oh_the_Places you all really are great mentors to many #edchat |
| 4:28 pm |
theresawhite: |
I've saved so much paper in my music classroom just by using my SMARTBoard, ELMO, and blogs this year, it's unbelievable! #edchat |
| 4:28 pm |
jpsteltz: |
RT @tomwhitby: Provide transportation only for those who actually use it and not for potential users. Saves $$$ #edchat |
| 4:28 pm |
seanbanville: |
@malcolmbellamy Yes, online collaboration and online anything else is essential to cut costs and improve quality of education. #edchat |
| 4:28 pm |
janwebb21: |
@colport mostly informal partnerships with local schools; formal 1 was vle project I led in local cluster with shared funding #edchat |
| 4:28 pm |
aaw1976: |
@olafelch I have you know I can work in the commercial world. LOL i just choose not too. #edchat |
| 4:28 pm |
jpsteltz: |
RT @malcolmbellamy: an opportunity of cuts may well be teachers using online collaboration as a source of support and pd #edchat |
| 4:28 pm |
tomwhitby: |
Eluiminate mailings by using the internet for parent communication. saves $$$ #edchat |
| 4:28 pm |
rrmurry: |
@tomwhitby Noooo! "Think of the Network!" says the IT dept. 3G could change the need for and cost for restrictive networks #edchat |
| 4:28 pm |
k_shelton: |
@bcahrens I agree. The point is more a function of the criticisms and gross cluelessness many that make the important decisions have #edchat |
| 4:29 pm |
olafelch: |
RT @colport: RT @hilld: #edchat our photocopying bill is outrageous. <--We should Imagine life without these machines! |
| 4:29 pm |
EduTechSmith: |
@olafelch not leading the class no- they are not trained - but could help tutor, read to group, etc #edchat |
| 4:29 pm |
akenuam: |
reform always takes the form of $$$, but isn't there other places where reform can occur? #edchat |
| 4:29 pm |
janwebb21: |
@Oh_the_Places but amount of teacher input can be construed as or used as manipulation #edchat |
| 4:29 pm |
MrR0g3rs: |
@Oh_the_Places i would fund schools with national funds and cut defense spending or bank bailouts #edchat |
| 4:29 pm |
Oh_the_Places: |
@tomwhitby Love this - going green should mean more electronic communication #edchat |
| 4:29 pm |
Parentella: |
@janwebb21 Yes, it is...but even small people can come up with good ideas...many times ideas u would not have come up with. #edchat |
| 4:29 pm |
jpsteltz: |
RT @tomwhitby: Eluiminate mailings by using the internet for parent communication. saves $$$ #edchat |
| 4:29 pm |
VanessaSCassie: |
RT @theresawhite: Ive saved so much paper in my music classroom just by using my SMARTBoard, ELMO, and blogs this year! #edchat |
| 4:29 pm |
k_shelton: |
RT @joe_bower: Did anyone else see the $$ Deleware is spending on DATA cops so they could get RttT $ ? http://bit.ly/c07Stx #edchat |
| 4:29 pm |
mritzius: |
How do schools stop investing in computers and let kids just bring their own gadgets from home? That would save boatloads of $$$ #edchat |
| 4:29 pm |
paulawhite: |
@malhodge areyou joining #edchat today? Go to tweetgrid.com and search #edchat--follow and join in! |
| 4:29 pm |
Parentella: |
RT @tomwhitby: Eluiminate mailings by using the internet for parent communication. saves $$$ #edchat |
| 4:29 pm |
EduTechSmith: |
@tomwhitby it takes time and patience to train parents to let go of the paper - especially younger grades #edchat |
| 4:29 pm |
seanbanville: |
RT @tomwhitby: Eliminate mailings by using the internet for parent communication. saves $$$ #edchat |
| 4:29 pm |
boundstaffpress: |
RT @chrisludwig: Unfortunately most budget-cutting decisions made by small groups of admin. What processes work to involve teachers? #edchat |
| 4:29 pm |
joe_bower: |
Too often educators assume the cuts must happen. If we are organized, we can fight the cuts http://www.investinschools.ca/ #edchat |
| 4:29 pm |
TheNerdyTeacher: |
@k_shelton Every year it's less $$$ and more expectations. We can only do so much before students are impacted. #edchat |
| 4:30 pm |
elanaleoni: |
@VanessaSCassie yes it literally takes less than a min to get around "filters." #edchat |
| 4:30 pm |
corriekelly: |
@boundstaffpress #edchat Data COPS? Ugh...is that really a way to inspire students and teachers??? |
| 4:30 pm |
jpsteltz: |
RT @theresawhite: I've saved so much paper in my music classroom just by using my SMARTBoard, ELMO, and blogs this year, it's unbelievable! #edchat |
| 4:30 pm |
mattguthrie: |
Cutting testing would literally save 100's of millions of $$. Move to "diploma defense" like in grad school #edchat |
| 4:30 pm |
theresawhite: |
Our district has eliminated mailing newsletters home to students. They are emailed and a few copies are kept in the office. #edchat |
| 4:30 pm |
Oh_the_Places: |
@janwebb21 Think I'm missing something here - not sure what you're getting at Sorry #edchat |
| 4:30 pm |
JaneBalvanz: |
Inviting @usedgov to find excellent thoughts on education via #edchat |
| 4:30 pm |
lisamonthie: |
@theresawhite i agree - I saved so many scantrons by using my CPS clickers...it was amazing #edchat |
| 4:30 pm |
graingered: |
3 ideas2 drastically save money in our schls& make them better@ same time- open source hardware/community use after 4:00/portables #edchat |
| 4:30 pm |
MissCheska: |
@Oh_the_Places A hypnotist?? Are you serious!? #edchat |
| 4:30 pm |
reportertanya: |
These districts saved money by moving activity and facility schedules online http://bit.ly/c96ZRv #edchat |
| 4:30 pm |
olafelch: |
@aaw1976 Good for you! But I'm sure you have a few colleagues who are perhaps not so adept? ;o) #edchat |
| 4:30 pm |
TallyDigitalBiz: |
#EdChat Budget idea: Reverse job fair 2 local Biz 2 bid on service learning projects. Create new revenues & PR win 4 Biz |
| 4:30 pm |
bcahrens: |
In my county we have 30+ school districts. Would love to see how much we are paying for sups, asst. sups, directors, in the county #edchat |
| 4:30 pm |
jpassant64: |
@joe_bower The answer to all of the problems in education is 4.5 hrs. per month of data coaching. Who knew? #edchat |
| 4:30 pm |
tbfurman: |
Irony: sprawling suburb dwellers often oppose huge public transportation budgets but expect a big yellow school bus every day. #edchat |
| 4:30 pm |
bcahrens: |
#edchat |
| 4:30 pm |
seanbanville: |
Give teachers bonuses for finding cost-cutting methods that maintain/improve quality of education #edchat |
| 4:30 pm |
AntHeald: |
Massive increase in ancillary staff has had some +ve impact, but also lots of waste IMO Needs careful thinking re. funding #edchat |
| 4:30 pm |
janwebb21: |
@mritzius isn't that going to become more common as kids inherit 3G phones from parents when they upgrade? #edchat |
| 4:30 pm |
Parentella: |
RT @joe_bower: 2often educators assume the cuts must happen.If we r organized, we can fight the cuts http://www.investinschools.ca/ #edchat |
| 4:30 pm |
k_shelton: |
@jpsteltz @tomwhitby Only issue with that is how do you communicate with the parents that have no internet access? #edchat |
| 4:30 pm |
stangea: |
#edchat elective mailings for families without internet or text messaging, one print letter for each family to youngest. |
| 4:30 pm |
Oh_the_Places: |
@MissCheska Yeppers - and the LOCKED the doors so we couldn't leave and use the time appropriately #edchat |
| 4:30 pm |
TheNerdyTeacher: |
@wmchamberlain @olafelch Ya, anyone can just walk in and read right from the textbook. Ha! #edchat |
| 4:30 pm |
tomwhitby: |
Schools should take on more student teachers to screen for potential teachers and streamline the internview process. Saves $$$ #edchat |
| 4:31 pm |
EduTechSmith: |
@mritzius i wonder what the costs wld be to deal with the virus issues that others could bring in? & does what about those w/o PCs? #edchat |
| 4:31 pm |
joe_bower: |
Anyone read Todd Farley's Making The Grade? If one-tenth of this is true, we shouldn't put one more cent into standardized testing! #edchat |
| 4:31 pm |
janwebb21: |
RT @mritzius: How do schools stop investing in computers and let kids just bring their own gadgets from home? That would save boatloads of $$$ #edchat |
| 4:31 pm |
theresawhite: |
@mritzius I tried that as well in my bldg, district tech mgr says we can't connect any outside machines to the network. #edchat |
| 4:31 pm |
elanaleoni: |
Some great ways I've seen to overcome budget, is to partner w businesses. NE1 doing this? #edchat |
| 4:31 pm |
web20education: |
Teachers are invited to join web 2.0 and social media and to discuss about new tehnologies in education in 2010 http://bit.ly/cNd3z2 #edchat |
| 4:31 pm |
Oh_the_Places: |
@MrR0g3rs If only - I wish national saw spending on Ed as the future of our country instead of funding the current prob #edchat |
| 4:31 pm |
k_shelton: |
@thenerdyteacher Yes and every year I encourage teachers to do less for free or on their free time. It diminishes our value!! #edchat |
| 4:31 pm |
mritzius: |
@mattguthrie Diploma defense - That is a GREAT idea #edchat |
| 4:31 pm |
seanbanville: |
@jpsteltz Agreed - I think going paperless is something we must all focus on more #edchat |
| 4:31 pm |
EduTechSmith: |
@tbfurman check out the cost of those buses - it is sad #edchat |
| 4:32 pm |
theresawhite: |
@stangea For a while we did "Oldest and only" mailings. Also, I've adopted Twitter & text alerts for HS program. They love it! #edchat |
| 4:32 pm |
TheNerdyTeacher: |
R skool board complained that teachers made up 80% of the budget. Teachers need 2 B cut. We shld B 80%? Who wld run the skool? #edchat |
| 4:32 pm |
corriekelly: |
@mritzius #edchat As long as schools recognize that not all stdts are privy to tech at home-we would need to fill any holes |
| 4:32 pm |
MissCheska: |
@Oh_the_Places LMAO! That's ridiculous #edchat |
| 4:32 pm |
readtoday: |
RT @k_shelton: @thenerdyteacher Every year I encourage teachers to do less for free or on their free time. It diminishes our value!! #edchat |
| 4:32 pm |
wmchamberlain: |
#edchat Cut down on the amount of time students spend in class being babysat. Give them a lesson and their work then get them out. |
| 4:32 pm |
olafelch: |
Who mentioned Open source software? the post flashed by and I can't find it now. #edchat |
| 4:32 pm |
Parentella: |
RT @seanbanville: @jpsteltz Agreed - I think going paperless is something we must all focus on more <YES!> #edchat |
| 4:32 pm |
k_shelton: |
@tomwhitby How about even having programs set up with local teacher prep programs to encourage involvement among other things #edchat |
| 4:32 pm |
joe_bower: |
If teachers are focused too much on saving money by going paperless, they are successfully being distracted from the real ed crisis! #edchat |
| 4:32 pm |
stangea: |
RT @tomwhitby: Schools should take on more student teachers to screen for potential teachers #edchat I agree with this |
| 4:32 pm |
EduTechSmith: |
@elanaleoni have a company be like a foster parent to the schools for helping out with time and $$ #edchat |
| 4:32 pm |
tomwhitby: |
@k_shelton Drums or smoke #edchat |
| 4:32 pm |
MrR0g3rs: |
#edchat our district has cut paper, ink, field trips, conferences, coaches, & supplies..but still must cut positions. People r real expense |
| 4:32 pm |
TheNerdyTeacher: |
@k_shelton - Exactly. As teaches, we have only so much free time to improve ourselves and our lessons. #edchat |
| 4:32 pm |
Oh_the_Places: |
@MissCheska And then the public wonders why the district closed the high school #edchat |
| 4:33 pm |
TallyDigitalBiz: |
Wish @SirKenRobinson & @mwbuckingham were attending #EdChat 2day. Teach & Learn by strengths 2 change EDU dynamics. |
| 4:33 pm |
theresawhite: |
@k_shelton Classroom teachers have a list of parents w/o internet and we send paper copies home with those students. #edchat |
| 4:33 pm |
wmchamberlain: |
#edchat Why do they need to be in class all day? How about 1/2 day with teacher 1/2 in a lab? #edchat |
| 4:33 pm |
SheldonWordNerd: |
@elanaleoni What sort of business partnerships are you doing? I'm just curious! #edchat |
| 4:33 pm |
olafelch: |
@thenerdyteacher Anyone can do it, true, but the sad thing is that some actually get away with it. #edchat |
| 4:33 pm |
mritzius: |
@EduTechSmith No viruses w/ cloud based computing. Schools subsidize cost 4 underpriveledged. Way cheaper than maintaining comp labs #edchat |
| 4:33 pm |
malcolmbellamy: |
cuts should not mean a return to victorian/factory education because it is cheaper to run! #edchat |
| 4:33 pm |
joe_bower: |
I'm all for paperless - I've never been so paperless in my life - but we have bigger issues that we must focus on #edchat |
| 4:33 pm |
Parentella: |
@olafelch I touched on it. IT could be a great way to save $$. #edchat |
| 4:33 pm |
MissCheska: |
@seanbanville It should be mandatory that policy makers spend a FULL DAY in different school settings #edchat |
| 4:33 pm |
Aaron_Eyler: |
Is school-wide PD really valuable as a process? Instead, make it participatory with stipends paid for reg. That would cut a lot. #edchat |
| 4:33 pm |
DouglasCrets: |
I'm having trouble with no teacher / student performance assessments, distract teachers from finding budget solutions, avoid cuts, #edchat |
| 4:33 pm |
jpsteltz: |
I am thinking of getting rid of my old metal filing cabinets (all is on my pc), eliminating paper, using Ning&blogs w/ students #edchat |
| 4:33 pm |
EduTechSmith: |
@seanbanville change the approach to going paperless to one of keeping you up to date in real time via web & email #edchat |
| 4:33 pm |
sumrthyme: |
@iangowans This may work IF we had elected school board - not appointed!!! #edchat |
| 4:33 pm |
theresawhite: |
Also - Abitibi paper recycling at most bldgs in district - recycles our own paper and gives us money for it. A great fundraiser! #edchat |
| 4:33 pm |
akenuam: |
RT @joe_bower: I'm all for paperless - I've never been so paperless in my life - but we have bigger issues that we must focus on #edchat |
| 4:33 pm |
Oh_the_Places: |
@olafelch It's been mentioned several times I think @Aaron_Eyler did one for sure #edchat |
| 4:33 pm |
janwebb21: |
@Oh_the_Places #edchat the authentic voice not manipulated by adults that you mentioned earlier is not so easy =too many variables + |
| 4:34 pm |
joe_bower: |
@colport cut summative testing before real learning #edchat |
| 4:34 pm |
MrR0g3rs: |
#edchat if u want to actually save money with software, do something radical - online classes |
| 4:34 pm |
DouglasCrets: |
It sounds mostly like don't do anything to teachers, or education, or anyone. Just leave things as they are, that's job security. #edchat |
| 4:34 pm |
web20education: |
RT @DUMACORNELLUCIA: Social Media in education , #edtech20 , #edchat http://tweetphoto.com/17393631 |
| 4:34 pm |
EduTechSmith: |
@mritzius sounds great - and what about those w/o computers? and what grade would be expected to furnish own laptop #edchat |
| 4:34 pm |
corriekelly: |
@ASCD_Inservice #edchat Not yet-we used Google Docs led PD as a trial. Went well but some tchrs still skeptical @ google docs. Wrkng on it! |
| 4:34 pm |
Oh_the_Places: |
@theresawhite Do you actually make decent money from recycling? #edchat |
| 4:34 pm |
mritzius: |
@theresawhite @EduTechSmith Municipalities could take a fraction of school budget and create WiMax for whole town #edchat |
| 4:34 pm |
TheNerdyTeacher: |
RT @MissCheska: @seanbanville It should be mandatory that policy makers spend a FULL DAY in different school settings #edchat <-- Yes! |
| 4:34 pm |
Oh_the_Places: |
@janwebb21 Ahhh, now i get it #edchat |
| 4:34 pm |
akenuam: |
i think the reform has to take our STUDENTS into account, how do we adequately prepare them for their future? #edchat |
| 4:34 pm |
seanbanville: |
@olafelch It was @owenpeery who mentioned Open source #edchat |
| 4:35 pm |
mattguthrie: |
RT @Aaron_Eyler: Is school-wide PD really valuable as a process? make it participatory w/stipends paid for reg.That would cut a lot #edchat |
| 4:35 pm |
janwebb21: |
@Oh_the_Places #edchat takes skill to get input from younger kids esp that is free from manipulation |
| 4:35 pm |
seanbanville: |
RT @wmchamberlain: #edchat Why do they need to be in class all day? How about 1/2 day with teacher 1/2 in a lab? #edchat |
| 4:35 pm |
janwebb21: |
@Oh_the_Places or free from the appearance of having been manipulated #edchat |
| 4:35 pm |
TheNerdyTeacher: |
@olafelch - And those are the ones that admins and Gov people point to. If all politicians were the same... #edchat |
| 4:35 pm |
EduTechSmith: |
@MrR0g3rs learningcentral.org is giving us free areas to try hosting our own online classrooms #edchat |
| 4:35 pm |
k_shelton: |
@theresawhite that's the easy solution, at my school getting that list to do that is harder than pulling molars. Lazy office staff #edchat |
| 4:35 pm |
lisamonthie: |
@jpsteltz so many of my teachers would have a stroke if I suggested getting rid of the filingcabinet, purple mimeo copies, & folders #edchat |
| 4:35 pm |
theresawhite: |
@Oh_the_Places It is a decent fundraiser for all of the paper we use. There are many schools around here that use it as well. #edchat |
| 4:35 pm |
mritzius: |
@EduTechSmith Subsidze cost for a comp to those who can't afford. Get 'em started right away. My niece is 3, she sends me pictures #edchat |
| 4:36 pm |
MissCheska: |
@stangea Or shift textbooks to open content e-books created by team-teachers? #edchat |
| 4:36 pm |
corriekelly: |
Followers just increased by 5. Thanks #edchat! :) |
| 4:36 pm |
mattguthrie: |
@Aaron_Eyler No it's not VALUABLE b/c not everyone implements BUT at least everyone is informed of better way #edchat |
| 4:36 pm |
seanbanville: |
RT @MissCheska: It should be mandatory that policy makers spend a FULL DAY in different school settings #edchat |
| 4:36 pm |
joe_bower: |
@MissCheska mental health and physical health are equally important. To suggest one is more important is... weird #edchat |
| 4:36 pm |
malcolmbellamy: |
in respect of paperless could we not investigate promoting electronic portfolios as assessment evidence? #edchat |
| 4:36 pm |
olafelch: |
RT @owenpeery: @SeanBanville #edchat not to mention Linux systems and Linux networking, how many schools still use XP? Linux rocks! |
| 4:36 pm |
bcahrens: |
RT @TheNerdyTeacher @MissCheska: @seanbanville should be mandatory that policy makers spend a FULL DAY in different school settings #edchat |
| 4:36 pm |
sanmccarron: |
@wmchamberlain Tried to make that argument, at least for behavior problem kids. Schools too stuck in their structure. #edchat |
| 4:36 pm |
EduTechSmith: |
RT @web20education: RT @DUMACORNELLUCIA: Social Media in education http://tweetphoto.com/17393631 #edchat |
| 4:36 pm |
aprilabtbalance: |
@lisamonthie But they'd eventually get over it. No one likes change, but we usually adjust. #edchat |
| 4:36 pm |
kellynelsen: |
RT @joe_bower: @MissCheska mental health and physical health are equally important. To suggest one is more important is... weird #edchat |
| 4:36 pm |
olafelch: |
@thenerdyteacher Agree completely. #edchat |
| 4:36 pm |
MrR0g3rs: |
@EduTechSmith there r lots of great tools 2 do this, but what if it was policy rather than experiment? Would teachers support this #edchat |
| 4:36 pm |
mritzius: |
@EduTechSmith City-wide Wimax negates need for network in indiviual schools, huge benefits for whole community. Talk about saving $ #edchat |
| 4:36 pm |
wmchamberlain: |
#edchat We spend 50 minutes on things that should take 15. The real waste in education is not money, it's time #edchat |
| 4:37 pm |
EduTechSmith: |
@mritzius that is awesome! #edchat |
| 4:37 pm |
seanbanville: |
RT @MrR0g3rs: #edchat if u want to actually save money with software, do something radical - online classes |
| 4:37 pm |
k_shelton: |
RT @TheNerdyTeacher @MissCheska: @seanbanville should be mandatory that policy makers spend a FULL DAY in different school settings #edchat |
| 4:37 pm |
chrisludwig: |
@seanbanville I was tinkering with that idea too, to have students in the building only part time, the rest online w/teacher. #edchat |
| 4:37 pm |
joe_bower: |
RT @jpassant64: @joe_bower The answer to all of the problems in education is 4.5 hrs. per month of data coaching. Who knew? #edchat |
| 4:37 pm |
TheNerdyTeacher: |
I'm not a fan of large mandatory PD. If teachers wnt 2 learn something new, they will seek it out. $ could B spent in other places. #edchat |
| 4:37 pm |
theresawhite: |
@Oh_the_Places we each have a big bin behind our school and the company comes to empty it weekly. 5th gr takes all recycling out. #edchat |
| 4:37 pm |
corriekelly: |
RT @malcolmbellamy: in respect of paperless could we not investigate promoting electronic portfolios as assessment evidence? #edchat |
| 4:37 pm |
Oh_the_Places: |
@theresawhite We have it too, but i've been told it's not that great for $$ We do a TON of recycling, tho #edchat |
| 4:37 pm |
MissCheska: |
@TheNerdyTeacher Yes, those teacher stereotypes are frustrating! 180 days/year - "What do you gotta complain about?" #edchat |
| 4:37 pm |
mpullen: |
#edchat I think tech is the answer to saving $ - online PD as opposed to travel, no more physical textbooks, less paper, opensource software |
| 4:37 pm |
dmlComp: |
RT @reyjunco Using multiple video chats in education http://bit.ly/9JihxO #sachat #edchat #edtech |
| 4:37 pm |
bcahrens: |
Agreed RT @joe_bower: I'm all for paperless, I've never been so paperless in my life but we have bigger issues that we must focus on #edchat |
| 4:37 pm |
hastac: |
RT @reyjunco Using multiple video chats in education http://bit.ly/9JihxO #sachat #edchat #edtech |
| 4:37 pm |
sanborncamps: |
RT @HSBS_Play: Register 4 free webinar on 4/26-Enhancing Your Outdoor Playspace: http://ow.ly/1v5rb #ECE #playoutdoors #edchat |
| 4:37 pm |
hammondccms: |
#edchat Going paperless should happen. But is that the only solution to cuts in funding? Just another itty-bitty bandaid for a major wound. |
| 4:37 pm |
Oh_the_Places: |
@janwebb21 True, now I understand. Yeah, good point now that I think about it #edchat |
| 4:37 pm |
JaneBalvanz: |
RT @akenuam i think the reform has 2 take r STUDENTS into account, how do we adequately prepare them 4 their future? #edchat ~> bottom line |
| 4:38 pm |
colport: |
@theresawhite @Oh_the_Places Perhaps teacher training colleges should advocate/model using paper less strategies to student teachers #edchat |
| 4:38 pm |
MrR0g3rs: |
RT @thenerdyteacher: not a fan of mandatory PD. If teachers wnt 2 learn something they will . $ could B spent in other places. #edchat |
| 4:38 pm |
k_shelton: |
@bcahrens @TheNerdyTeacher @MissCheska @seanbanville without that they have plausible deniability, hence poor decision making #edchat |
| 4:38 pm |
TheNerdyTeacher: |
@MissCheska - You can spend your summer doing stuff. That's what it's for. <--- Annoying/uninformed people #edchat |
| 4:38 pm |
janwebb21: |
RT @mattguthrie: @Aaron_Eyler No it's not VALUABLE b/c not everyone implements BUT at least everyone is informed of better way #edchat |
| 4:38 pm |
seanbanville: |
RT @MissCheska: @stangea Or shift textbooks to open content e-books created by team-teachers? #edchat |
| 4:38 pm |
sanborncamps: |
RT @BayBackpack: Celebrate National Park Week w/ ur class! No Entrance Fee 2 NP April 17-25. http://ow.ly/1v528 #playoutdoors #edchat |
| 4:38 pm |
aprilabtbalance: |
@joe_bower Still, physical education shouldn't b limited 2 sports. My daughter hates sports, but loves to dance! #edchat |
| 4:38 pm |
mritzius: |
@EduTechSmith School budgets go down, family expenditures go down, town benefits. Heck, I'd move there #edchat |
| 4:38 pm |
corriekelly: |
@hammondccms Major wound-yes, but going paperless would lead to new lifestyle of teaching & lrng, not nec just bandaid approach #edchat |
| 4:38 pm |
stangea: |
current PD is essentially undifferentiated, more authentic and targeted PD makes sense #edchat |
| 4:38 pm |
theresawhite: |
So what is the bigger fix? Larger class sizes? Less teachers? Pay-to-play? #edchat |
| 4:39 pm |
Oh_the_Places: |
@theresawhite Sounds about like us - we added the comingled recycling too and we compost #edchat |
| 4:39 pm |
tbfurman: |
RT @wmchamberlain: #edchat The real waste in education is not money, it's time #edchat Blended environments are going to reduce this waste. |
| 4:39 pm |
ASCD_Inservice: |
@corriekelly I'm thinking about writing an article about teacher-led PD. DM me if you want to discuss further! #edchat |
| 4:39 pm |
corriekelly: |
RT @seanbanville: RT @MissCheska: @stangea Or shift textbooks to open content e-books created by team-teachers? #edchat |
| 4:39 pm |
bcahrens: |
As a teacher, I scrimp and save. I see waste occurring not in my classroom, but in the District Office. #edchat |
| 4:39 pm |
joe_bower: |
@ChadRatliff @DouglasCrets Chad, that is an important point. They are different. #edchat |
| 4:39 pm |
Parentella: |
RT @theresawhite: So what is the bigger fix? Larger class sizes? Less teachers? Pay-to-play? #edchat |
| 4:39 pm |
janwebb21: |
RT @wmchamberlain: #edchat We spend 50 minutes on things that should take 15. The real waste in education is not money, it's time |
| 4:39 pm |
akenuam: |
@theresawhite none of the above #edchat |
| 4:39 pm |
KSL: |
RT @olafelch: RT @mritzius: RT @iangowans: Teachers need to advocate at local level so school boards can make good choices #edchat -Yep!! |
| 4:39 pm |
reaneawilson: |
RT @seanbanville: RT @MissCheska: It should be mandatory that policy makers spend a FULL DAY in different school settings #edchat |
| 4:39 pm |
TheNerdyTeacher: |
@k_shelton - I think thr shld B a spot reserved on all skool boards 4 a teacher rep in the district. giv us a seat at the table. #edchat |
| 4:39 pm |
Oh_the_Places: |
@colport I think there's a lot in teacher training that is "traditional" rather than forward thinking #edchat |
| 4:39 pm |
akenuam: |
RT @wmchamberlain:The real waste in education is not money, it's time #edchat Blended environments are going to reduce this waste. |
| 4:39 pm |
ianaddison: |
@mritzius what about ch without their own gadgets? wouldn't they be missing out if we didn't provide some too? #edchat |
| 4:39 pm |
JaneBalvanz: |
@hammondccms I agree. We need a multi-tiered approach. #edchat |
| 4:39 pm |
Oh_the_Places: |
@theresawhite We're big on going green and earth stuff and getting back to the roots of agr #edchat |
| 4:39 pm |
akenuam: |
RT @Oh_the_Places: @colport I think there's a lot in teacher training that is "traditional" rather than forward thinking #edchat |
| 4:39 pm |
akamrt: |
RT @joe_bower: @ChadRatliff @DouglasCrets schs r distracted enough. How does demanding schs turn a profit help them focus on lrning? #edchat |
| 4:40 pm |
mobienthusiast: |
RT @Parentella: RT @theresawhite: So what is the bigger fix? Larger class sizes? Less teachers? Pay-to-play? #edchat |
| 4:40 pm |
Parentella: |
I just got a Kindle & was discussing with husband the MANY uses 4 it in school systems. Why not? #edchat |
| 4:40 pm |
shawdave: |
looks like the spambots have found our little #edchat stream. Annoying ads |
| 4:40 pm |
olafelch: |
Think about energy saving, paper reduction, opensource software, and lean management. As a package, you could save a lot. #edchat |
| 4:40 pm |
MrR0g3rs: |
@hammondccms yes, that is what i've been saying. tech & book budgets r a drop in the ocean of a district's budget #edchat |
| 4:40 pm |
Oh_the_Places: |
Hey all, it's been a great #edchat Need to go teach! Be back later |
| 4:40 pm |
olafelch: |
RT @JaneBalvanz: @hammondccms I agree. We need a multi-tiered approach. #edchat |
| 4:40 pm |
DouglasCrets: |
@joe_bower Nobody demands schools turn a profit. What I am talking about is driving innovation in lessons that could create surplus. #edchat |
| 4:40 pm |
elanaleoni: |
@olafelch I didnt mention it but how can we expect students to enter the workforce w/o being advocates of open source? #edchat |
| 4:40 pm |
mattguthrie: |
@Aaron_Eyler no, the value is the imp, but those that refuse to imp have less excuse #edchat |
| 4:40 pm |
TheNerdyTeacher: |
RT @bcahrens: As a teacher, I scrimp and save. I see waste occurring not in my classroom, but in the District Office. #edchat |
| 4:40 pm |
DouglasCrets: |
There are ways to re-jig how schools operate, and what we teach children, that could create sustainable profit / surplus. #edchat |
| 4:40 pm |
janwebb21: |
@ianaddison will take a couple of years but wait till we end up with second hand 3G phones coming through! will have an impact #edchat |
| 4:40 pm |
wmchamberlain: |
@tbfurman Blended environments need to start with tech #edchat |
| 4:40 pm |
mattguthrie: |
@Aaron_Eyler those that want to imp but struggle w/how -to at least further along #edchat |
| 4:41 pm |
JenniferSCohen: |
@kellynelsen I wish insurance companies understood that mental and physicial health aren't separate concepts! #edchat |
| 4:41 pm |
getsweetie: |
#edchat If teachers want to change how schools are handled, get the parents involved, educate them of your needs, build your support system |
| 4:41 pm |
Aaron_Eyler: |
@janwebb21 @mattguthrie I just think the time of teacher equity for PD is over. Ppl. shd get what they want and weed out the others. #edchat |
| 4:41 pm |
Oh_the_Places: |
Not all "teacher training" since I know @tomwhitby does a great job (had to put the #edchat disclaimer out there) :-) |
| 4:41 pm |
bcahrens: |
@Oh_the_Places is there support at the district level for "new" techniques? seems like an issue at schools. #edchat |
| 4:41 pm |
TheNerdyTeacher: |
I love how saving money is increasing class sizes and cutting staff. That won't impact the learning at all. #edchat |
| 4:41 pm |
theresawhite: |
@akenuam I agree. So where does it start? Going green/paperless is one. What else? #edchat |
| 4:41 pm |
reaneawilson: |
RT @TheNerdyTeacher: @k_shelton - I think thr shld B a spot reserved on all skool boards 4 a teacher rep in the district. giv us a seat at the table. #edchat |
| 4:41 pm |
mattguthrie: |
@Aaron_Eyler Not all PD needs to be school wide, must allow for ind needs as well #edchat |
| 4:41 pm |
EduTechSmith: |
@mritzius have you seen that article about the wifi school buses - students studying on them while enroute to school? #edchat |
| 4:41 pm |
aprilabtbalance: |
@DouglasCrets Can you give an example? #edchat |
| 4:41 pm |
k_shelton: |
RT @thenerdyteacher: I think thr shld B a spot reserved on all schl boards 4 a teacher rep in the district. giv us a seat at table. #edchat |
| 4:41 pm |
mritzius: |
@ianaddison A teacher should be able to afford at least a netbook. Maybe negotiate into the contract? #edchat |
| 4:41 pm |
olafelch: |
RT @elanaleoni: @olafelch I didnt mention it but how can we expect students 2 enter the workforce w/o being advocates of opensource? #edchat |
| 4:41 pm |
mattguthrie: |
@janwebb21 REAL pd always includes imp plan #edchat |
| 4:41 pm |
AntHeald: |
UK league tables result in more resits of exams - an expensive industry in itself. Assess the learning, not teach to test. #edchat |
| 4:41 pm |
tbfurman: |
How much time, energy, and money is expended in certification? It's a huge system, improving nothing. #edchat |
| 4:41 pm |
corriekelly: |
RT @getsweetie: #edchat If teachers want to change how schools are handled, get the parents involved, educate them of your needs, build your support system |
| 4:41 pm |
lisamonthie: |
RT @mattguthrie: @Aaron_Eyler Not all PD needs to be school wide, must allow for ind needs as well #edchat |
| 4:41 pm |
janwebb21: |
@mobienthusiast @Parentella @theresawhite #edchat completely rethinking pedagogy to make the best of the new tools we have? |
| 4:41 pm |
paulawhite: |
@mattguthrie couldbe "capstone" projects (community action projects) to graduate #edchat |
| 4:42 pm |
bcahrens: |
@Oh_the_Places I teach in a credential program and share "new" techniques, teachers pressured at schools to do it the "normal" way. #edchat |
| 4:42 pm |
TheNerdyTeacher: |
Also, add merit pay after adding 6 more kids to the classroom and everything is better. Right? #edchat |
| 4:42 pm |
joe_bower: |
@DouglasCrets if you are reading all this and you hink we want status quo 4 job security, you need to get your eyes checked #edchat |
| 4:42 pm |
elanaleoni: |
@EduTechSmith Yes! High Tech High does this well. http://bit.ly/bpxclK #edchat |
| 4:42 pm |
EduTechSmith: |
@DouglasCrets sure there is a demand for schools to show profit - our profit is the type of person we mold #edchat |
| 4:42 pm |
k_shelton: |
@thenerdyteacher great idea. Now we need to get that written into law to guarantee it happens. It's only one vote, but it's a voice! #edchat |
| 4:42 pm |
web20education: |
RT @DUMACORNELLUCIA: Twitter is also a great tool for teaching and playing , #edtech20 , #edchat :) http://bit.ly/9AGcCh |
| 4:42 pm |
Oh_the_Places: |
@bcahrens I tend to be the one pushing "new" techniques, but I have great buy in from my staff #edchat |
| 4:42 pm |
theresawhite: |
@TheNerdyTeacher you're right, it won't. It's everyone's fallback. What is a better plan? #edchat |
| 4:42 pm |
janwebb21: |
@mattguthrie imp? #edchat |
| 4:42 pm |
Aaron_Eyler: |
@mattguthrie Agreed. No PD should be blanket imp. across the district. That very premise is a waste of money #edchat |
| 4:42 pm |
malcolmbellamy: |
keep the vision of a transformed 21st century education despite the cuts and in preparation for the future #edchat |
| 4:42 pm |
olafelch: |
RT @EduTechSmith: @DouglasCrets sure there is a demand for schools to show profit - our profit is the type of person we mold #edchat |
| 4:42 pm |
Oh_the_Places: |
Ok, seriously I need to go - <dragging myself out the door> #edchat :-) |
| 4:42 pm |
lisamonthie: |
@mattguthrie i agree - and PD should allow for individual preferences #edchat |
| 4:42 pm |
mritzius: |
@EduTechSmith Awesome idea. much of classroom is on moodle. I have a kid that does most of his hwk on his phone on 1hr ride home #edchat |
| 4:43 pm |
EduTechSmith: |
@mattguthrie true - so giving educators credit for online PD should be accepted world wide- even rdg blogs should be counted! #edchat |
| 4:43 pm |
colport: |
RT @AntHeald: UK league tables result in more resits of exams - an expensive industry in itself. Assess the learning, not teach to test. #edchat |
| 4:43 pm |
TheNerdyTeacher: |
@wmchamberlain @k_shelton - We are the experts hired to teacher their children but they leave us out of the edu process. #edchat #dumbidea |
| 4:43 pm |
elanaleoni: |
@SheldonWordNerd Personally I'm not but just seen a lot of success with schools doing it. #edchat |
| 4:43 pm |
janwebb21: |
@Aaron_Eyler @mattguthrie you can lead a horse to water but can't make it drink applies to PD too, but we need to know what opps are #edchat |
| 4:43 pm |
DouglasCrets: |
RT @olafelch: RT @EduTechSmith: @DouglasCrets sure there is a demand for schools to show profit - our profit is the type of person we mold #edchat |
| 4:43 pm |
akenuam: |
all funding aside, what would your ideal educational structure look like? what shape do our students need education to take today? #edchat |
| 4:43 pm |
aaw1976: |
@thenerdyteacher How dare you be concerned with your work load? #edchat |
| 4:43 pm |
EduTechSmith: |
@web20education and Edmodo is a great tool for teaching & playing with the under 13 kids #edchat |
| 4:43 pm |
bcahrens: |
@Oh_the_Places but really hard to be a new teacher without support for using new techniques. It's a sad reality. #edchat |
| 4:44 pm |
DouglasCrets: |
Issues of tone aside, this discussion is about whether teachers, staff, admin have the resources available to them to improvise edu. #edchat |
| 4:44 pm |
theresawhite: |
@mritzius I love that. The ability to finish homework while on the bus! How great to be able to do that. #edchat |
| 4:44 pm |
TheNerdyTeacher: |
@theresawhite - A better plan is going after the states 4 how they fund schools. As dumb as SBs cn B., their hands R tied by states. #edchat |
| 4:44 pm |
elanaleoni: |
@SheldonWordNerd I can DM you some examples later. #edchat |
| 4:44 pm |
KSL: |
RT @Oh_the_Places: If students are involved, they need to have authentic voice - not manipulated by adults #edchat |
| 4:44 pm |
lisamonthie: |
RT @EduTechSmith: @mattguthrie true - so giving educators credit for online PD should be accepted world wide- even rdg blogs should be counted! #edchat |
| 4:44 pm |
stangea: |
Reduce the school year to 100 days of math, writing & reading would save money and facility. Three groups each year (Alan ducks... ) #edchat |
| 4:44 pm |
getsweetie: |
.@Parentella we have loved Kindle for our dyslexic child and many VI children I work w/..the read aloud feature opens their world #edchat |
| 4:44 pm |
olafelch: |
RT @mritzius have you seen that article about the wifi school buses - students studying on them while enroute to school? #edchat v. cool! |
| 4:44 pm |
mpullen: |
in my district, something like 86% of the cost is salaries and benefits, so I suppose that's where we have to look #edchat |
| 4:44 pm |
janwebb21: |
@Aaron_Eyler @mattguthrie #edchat is teacher equity the issue or equal opportunities for our pupils - I think that's MORE important |
| 4:44 pm |
mritzius: |
@TheNerdyTeacher Merit only works in an everyone / noone context. Otherwise, faculties devour each other and kids #edchat |
| 4:44 pm |
EduTechSmith: |
@Oh_the_Places buy in from the staff are contagious once they see how well behaved & on task & engaged stdnts R w/ new tchng tech. #edchat |
| 4:44 pm |
Parentella: |
@janwebb21 We have to be willing to use tools outside of the box. #edchat |
| 4:45 pm |
wmchamberlain: |
They should spend more money allowing teachers to collaborate and make student contact time more valuable #edchat |
| 4:45 pm |
TheNerdyTeacher: |
@aaw1976 - The nerve of me wanting to work more closely with students. Shame on me. #edchat |
| 4:45 pm |
DouglasCrets: |
Would be great if contracts, agreements, other ways of operating schools could change to enable an open source, tech-centric way. #edchat |
| 4:45 pm |
web20education: |
RT @bjnichols: New Google Earth Imagery - Google Earth Blog http://bit.ly/c8ltSX #gct #edtech , #edtech20 , #edchat |
| 4:45 pm |
Parentella: |
RT @getsweetie: we have loved Kindle for our dyslexic child and many VI children I work w/..the read aloud feature opens their world #edchat |
| 4:45 pm |
akamrt: |
#edchat Some good thinking in biz world that can inform sch - but sch needs to stop using the jargon as if stu are assembly line products |
| 4:45 pm |
joe_bower: |
I would argue that the best learning that leads to the largest academic gains will never make a profit in short term financial gains #edchat |
| 4:45 pm |
akenuam: |
RT @EduTechSmith: giving educators credit for online PD should be accepted world wide- even rdg blogs should be counted! #edchat |
| 4:45 pm |
mritzius: |
@theresawhite try moodle. edmodo may do the job too but untested by me #edchat |
| 4:45 pm |
corriekelly: |
@bcahrens #edchat So true! Exactly why teacher mentors/coaches are needed. Being a 1st year teacher would be tough right now! |
| 4:45 pm |
lisamonthie: |
@janwebb21 @Aaron_Eyler @mattguthrie i agree - there ultimately has to be some accountability for the teachers #edchat |
| 4:45 pm |
janwebb21: |
@Aaron_Eyler @mattguthrie #edchat it's not the teachers who are important but what they are able to bring to the children's learning |
| 4:45 pm |
MrR0g3rs: |
RT @akamrt: #edchat Some good thinking in biz world that can inform sch - but sch needs to stop using the jargon as if stu are assembly line products |
| 4:45 pm |
EduTechSmith: |
how much $$ is spent on supplying junk food and treats still? i know there has been an improvement on cafeterias - just wondering #edchat |
| 4:45 pm |
JaneBalvanz: |
@MissCheska @TheNerdyTeacher There's a good book called Teachers Have It Easy (ironic title).Offers good rebuttal 2: teaching=easy #edchat |
| 4:45 pm |
theresawhite: |
@stangea ??? What about the arts? What about foreign language?? #edchat |
| 4:45 pm |
bcahrens: |
@tbfurman but putting teachers without training in the classroom is not a good idea. I work at a private school. I've seen it #edchat |
| 4:46 pm |
EduTechSmith: |
off to meet with a small group - enjoyed today! #edchat |
| 4:46 pm |
KSL: |
RT @olafelch: RT @EduTechSmith: @aprilabtbalance if they cut out state tests & colleges require - the student gets hurt #edchat |
| 4:46 pm |
akamrt: |
RT @mritzius: @TheNerdyTeacher Merit only works in an everyone / noone context. < Research shows merit pay reduces tchr quality. #edchat |
| 4:46 pm |
JeanneBernish: |
RT @GetSweetie: @Parentella we have loved Kindle for our dyslexic child and many VI children,...read aloud feature opens their world #edchat |
| 4:46 pm |
chrisludwig: |
@akenuam I'd have students face to face some of the time, and the rest of their ed would be online. Less duplication of effort. #edchat |
| 4:46 pm |
janwebb21: |
@Parentella absolutely #edchat |
| 4:46 pm |
SheldonWordNerd: |
@elanaleoni That would be FANTASTIC. I've got an online vocabulary site, not in schools yet, but working on it. #edchat |
| 4:46 pm |
theresawhite: |
@mritzius I have @edublogs for my kids- they haven't figured out that they can do it from phones yet :) #edchat |
| 4:46 pm |
DouglasCrets: |
To be clear. My vision abt "profit" and abt making money for schools is not about short term gains. It's about sustainable function #edchat |
| 4:46 pm |
olafelch: |
OK, what about sports facilities? (Sorry to all the sports teachers out there but the question needs to be asked!) #edchat |
| 4:46 pm |
mritzius: |
@mritzius It's been fun, thanks for a great #edchat. But I gotta run to a hot lunch date ;) |
| 4:46 pm |
joe_bower: |
Education is a long term investment that should never be cut. To do so would only sacrifice the long term for short term gains #edchat |
| 4:46 pm |
KSL: |
RT @olafelch: RT @DouglasCrets: If schools could produce, or get entrepreneurial, they could make money. #edchat |
| 4:46 pm |
ianaddison: |
@janwebb21 maybe, but i still think it will take some schools a long time to catch up to this idea #edchat |
| 4:46 pm |
TheNerdyTeacher: |
@EduTechSmith - Thanks for coming. :-) #edchat |
| 4:47 pm |
shirleylacroix: |
RT @theresawhite: @stangea ??? What about the arts? What about foreign language?? #edchat |
| 4:47 pm |
akenuam: |
@janwebb21: our students will never have equal opportunities if the best an brightest teach only where they are treated equitably #edchat |
| 4:47 pm |
bcahrens: |
@corriekelly new teachers need mentors who are innovative and supportive. #edchat |
| 4:47 pm |
akenuam: |
@chrisludwig i like it. #edchat |
| 4:47 pm |
MrR0g3rs: |
@chrisludwig i would go for this, but it would be resisted by unions b/c less teachers could reach more students #edchat |
| 4:47 pm |
mountainteacher: |
RT @TheNerdyTeacher: @k_shelton - I think thr shld B a spot reserved on all skool boards 4 a teacher rep in the district. giv us a seat at the table. #edchat |
| 4:47 pm |
SheldonWordNerd: |
@elanaleoni Also, my mother's a librarian in a charter school. They have to be so creative to make ends meet. New ideas are good! #edchat |
| 4:47 pm |
olafelch: |
RT @akenuam I'd have students face to face some of the time, and the rest would be online. Less duplication of effort. #edchat |
| 4:47 pm |
aaw1976: |
@TheNerdyTeacher and to add insult to injury you have to buy goods and services off the state contract... in this economy? #edchat |
| 4:47 pm |
DouglasCrets: |
Entrepreneurial vision in my mind means creating sustainable innovations that enable growth, student achievement and equity. #edchat |
| 4:47 pm |
olafelch: |
#edchat |
| 4:47 pm |
akamrt: |
@bcahrens #edchat I entered the classroom w/o any edu courses and had great 23+ year career in classroom. I can work. |
| 4:47 pm |
mountainteacher: |
RT @joe_bower: Education is a long term investment that should never be cut. To do so would only sacrifice the long term for short term gains #edchat |
| 4:47 pm |
Parentella: |
RT @joe_bower: Education is lng term investment that should never Bcut. 2do so would only sacrifice the long term 4short term gains #edchat |
| 4:47 pm |
TheNerdyTeacher: |
@mritzius @akamrt - Trust me, I'm no fan of merit pay. Everybody would stop sharing and scramble for the Honors and AP clases. #edchat |
| 4:47 pm |
boundstaffpress: |
RT @joe_bower: Education is long term investment & should never be cut. U only sacrifice the long term for short term gains #edchat |
| 4:47 pm |
getsweetie: |
The beauty of Kindle has been the immediate access of pdfs as well as books to be read aoud@Parentella #edchat |
| 4:47 pm |
akamrt: |
*It* @bcahrens #edchat |
| 4:48 pm |
jpsteltz: |
RT @olafelch: OK, what about sports facilities? (Sorry to all the sports teachers out there but the question needs to be asked!) #edchat |
| 4:48 pm |
corriekelly: |
#edchat Enjoyed chatting today- Off to a vineyard date- Edchat + good wine = great afternoon! Bye all! |
| 4:48 pm |
tbfurman: |
@bcahrens some of the best teachers i've ever seen are in private schools, uncertified. The certification has little to do with it. #edchat |
| 4:48 pm |
bcahrens: |
@joe_bower agreed. these budget cuts send a message to students that they are not valuable enough to support. Sad. #edchat |
| 4:48 pm |
colport: |
RT @joe_bower: Education is a long term investment that should never be cut. To do so would only sacrifice the long term for short term gains #edchat |
| 4:48 pm |
TheNerdyTeacher: |
RT @bcahrens: @corriekelly new teachers need mentors who are innovative and supportive. #edchat <-- Yes! Help the young ones grow. |
| 4:48 pm |
olafelch: |
RT @shirleylacroix: RT @theresawhite: @stangea ??? What about the arts? What about foreign language?? #edchat |
| 4:48 pm |
janwebb21: |
@ianaddison isn't it the 2020 vision for 1:1? and the way we can make it poss? is 10 yrs realistic timescale to implement? #edchat |
| 4:48 pm |
akenuam: |
RT @bcahrens: these budget cuts send a message to students that they are not valuable enough to support. Sad. #edchat |
| 4:49 pm |
jpsteltz: |
getting rid of filing cabinets and piles of papers would allow more room for my students to engage in authentic learning activities #edchat |
| 4:49 pm |
akamrt: |
@thenerdyteacher #edchat That would only be the surface of the iceberg. Merit pay doesn't lend itself well to creativity or innovation. |
| 4:49 pm |
Parentella: |
RT @DouglasCrets: Entrepreneurial vision n my mind means creating sustble innvatns tht enable growth,student achievement and equity. #edchat |
| 4:49 pm |
chrisludwig: |
Is there such a thing as #prisonchat ? Maybe over there they have some answers on how to get money for our educational system. #edchat |
| 4:49 pm |
colport: |
Cutting funds in education would be short sighted, but easy target for politicians. #edchat |
| 4:49 pm |
TheNerdyTeacher: |
Should arts and sports be left to the city to run and save districts $$? Isn't school about Learning and not sports? #edchat |
| 4:49 pm |
theresawhite: |
Mentoring is one of the most important things we can do for new teachers AND students. Show them how to teach and how to learn. #edchat |
| 4:49 pm |
malcolmbellamy: |
in my opinion a project based curriculum using new technology is worth fighting for #edchat |
| 4:49 pm |
paulawhite: |
RT @DouglasCrets: Entrepreneurial vision means creating sustainable innovations that enable growth, student achievement and equity. #edchat |
| 4:49 pm |
tbfurman: |
#edchat colleagues, I always learn something here. Have a great day. |
| 4:49 pm |
akenuam: |
@joebower, how does finland fund schools? :) #edchat |
| 4:49 pm |
Parentella: |
@getsweetie Yes! I can see so many uses for this tool alone!! Just placing this in the right hands...imagine. #edchat |
| 4:49 pm |
bcahrens: |
@tbfurman training provides at minimum a "bag of tricks" for new teachers. Have many teachers who can't reach students- ALL LECTURE #edchat |
| 4:49 pm |
olafelch: |
RT @joe_bower: Ed is a long term investment that should never be cut. 2 do so wld only sacrifice the long term for short term gains #edchat |
| 4:49 pm |
TheNerdyTeacher: |
RT @akenuam: RT @bcahrens: these budget cuts send a message to students that they are not valuable enough to support. Sad. #edchat |
| 4:50 pm |
aprilabtbalance: |
@joe_bower I think the cuts have already proven your point. Just look at what our economy's been thru! #edchat |
| 4:50 pm |
Parentella: |
RT @TheNerdyTeacher: Should arts and sports be left to the city to run and save districts $$? Isn't school re:Learning¬ sports? #edchat |
| 4:50 pm |
theresawhite: |
@TheNerdyTeacher I don't know that putting sports and the arts in the same category is fair. #edchat |
| 4:50 pm |
joe_bower: |
Wanna know how to keep pissing away edu reform $$, keep breaking these five rules http://bit.ly/duT0dd Florida is doing great #edchat |
| 4:50 pm |
janwebb21: |
@Aaron_Eyler in that case we need to make teachers accountable for implementing the changes they learn about in PD? #edchat |
| 4:50 pm |
MissCheska: |
@chrisludwig How does this work for younger students? #edchat |
| 4:50 pm |
davidwees: |
How many other countries in the world fund education on per municipality basis other than US? Canada, funding comes from provinces. #edchat |
| 4:50 pm |
stangea: |
@shirleylacroix just kidding about reducing year and curriculum! but we don't assess those subjects so they must not be important. #edchat |
| 4:50 pm |
lisamonthie: |
@TheNerdyTeacher i think you should have all components in education: mental, physical, even spiritual...#edchat |
| 4:50 pm |
olafelch: |
RT @colport: Cutting funds in education would be short sighted, but easy target for politicians. #edchat |
| 4:50 pm |
seanbanville: |
RT @joe_bower: Eductn is a long term investment that shd never b cut. To do so would only sacrifice the long term 4 short term gains #edchat |
| 4:50 pm |
akamrt: |
#edchat All should read Chp on Sociology of Edu in @anya1anya's book DIY U: Edupunks, Edupreneurs, & the coming transformation of Higher Ed |
| 4:51 pm |
DouglasCrets: |
RT @Parentella: RT @DouglasCrets: Entrepreneurial vision n my mind means creating sustble innvatns tht enable growth,student achievement and equity. #edchat |
| 4:51 pm |
bjnichols: |
Mentoring should be comprehensive for students, teachers, and administrators. It is the key to improvement. #edchat |
| 4:51 pm |
shirleylacroix: |
@TheNerdyTeacher and the arts aren't about learning? #edchat #edchat |
| 4:51 pm |
TheNerdyTeacher: |
@theresawhite - I don't mean to classify them as the same, but they are things that can be run by cities for people who want them. #edchat |
| 4:51 pm |
seanbanville: |
RT @colport: Cutting funds in education would be short sighted, but easy target for politicians. #edchat |
| 4:51 pm |
Sryn: |
Welcome Liza ? RT @zulfadly: Everyone say a big Hi to @liza_cheteh An English teacher from Ipoh, Perak. Welcome to #edbrunei #edchat |
| 4:51 pm |
jpsteltz: |
not sure about arts.but sports, a definite maybeRT @thenerdyteacher: Should arts & sports b left 2 city 2 run & save districts $? #edchat |
| 4:51 pm |
ianaddison: |
@janwebb21 currently we have divide in our schs between 'have' and 'have-nots' I see this getting bigger, not everyone has vision! #edchat |
| 4:51 pm |
NateStories: |
RT @Parentella we have loved Kindle for our dyslexic child and many VI children,...read aloud feature opens their world #edchat |
| 4:51 pm |
joe_bower: |
@akamrt @mritzius @TheNerdyTeacher #edchat merit pay was attempted 123 years ago and abandoned! but we keep trying same thing over & over |
| 4:51 pm |
seanbanville: |
RT @malcolmbellamy: in my opinion a project based curriculum using new technology is worth fighting for #edchat |
| 4:51 pm |
olafelch: |
RT @DouglasCrets: Entrepreneurial vision means creating sustainable innovations that enable growth, student achievement and equity. #edchat |
| 4:51 pm |
shirleylacroix: |
@stangea too bad that the ed wrld defines importance by assessment! #edchat |
| 4:51 pm |
colport: |
In these times, I would advocate that budgets be increased to ensure more productive, happier citizens of the future society #edchat |
| 4:52 pm |
andykemp: |
RT @AntHeald: UK league tables result in more resits of exams - an expensive industry in itself. Assess the learning, not teach to test. #edchat |
| 4:52 pm |
web20education: |
RT @DUMACORNELLUCIA: I involved 110 teachers in project ,,Different, but equal " . #edchat , #edtech20 see blog http://bit.ly/bTwsnJ Ning http://bit.ly/bnrjde |
| 4:52 pm |
theresawhite: |
@TheNerdyTeacher I don't think these are things that should be cut from the curriculum. Students need arts, foreign lang, etc. #edchat |
| 4:52 pm |
lisamonthie: |
@janwebb21 true...PD shouldnt b something done once/twice a yr & then never revisited - some kind of project or something to show 4 #edchat |
| 4:52 pm |
bcahrens: |
@akamrt 23 years is work! You were willing to improve practice. We had teachers who think LECTURE is teaching. It's not #edchat |
| 4:52 pm |
aprilabtbalance: |
@lisamonthie as a parent, the spiritual component worries me! #edchat |
| 4:52 pm |
Akee123: |
@Aaron_Eyler #edchat saving money means cutting teachers, staffing is 80 perc of budget |
| 4:52 pm |
davidwees: |
@TheNerdyTeacher Arts should never be cut from schools. It is a core subject. #edchat |
| 4:52 pm |
janwebb21: |
@Aaron_Eyler #edchat if we are to make most of resources, PD should be equitable, implementation accountable, |
| 4:52 pm |
akenuam: |
RT @colport: advocate that budgets be increased to ensure more productive, happier citizens of the future society #edchat |
| 4:52 pm |
tomwhitby: |
@akenuam @bcahrens I believe it shows reflection and flexibilty to problemsolve makes for thoughtful and useful change #edchat |
| 4:52 pm |
joe_bower: |
Money for edu reform will never go 2 good use or good effect until teachers are listened to. We r in trenches. We know something #edchat |
| 4:52 pm |
chrisludwig: |
@MissCheska I think you could have your more independent learners start some partially blended classes but most would wait until HS #edchat |
| 4:52 pm |
joe_bower: |
RT @colport: Cutting funds in education would be short sighted, but easy target for politicians. #edchat |
| 4:52 pm |
theresawhite: |
@TheNerdyTeacher other districts in the world have figured out how important it is for students to have them. We need to. #edchat |
| 4:52 pm |
wmchamberlain: |
Think about how much money could be saved in rural communities if we required parents to transport their students. #edchat |
| 4:52 pm |
TheNerdyTeacher: |
@shirleylacroix @lisamonthie - As a student athlete and drama kid, both provided much to me. However, sports takes time and $ away . #edchat |
| 4:53 pm |
shirleylacroix: |
RT @davidwees: @TheNerdyTeacher Arts should never be cut from schools. It is a core subject. #edchat |
| 4:53 pm |
akamrt: |
@joe_bower #edchat B/c politicians have little-no expertise in edu & think forcing artificial "accountability" models on edu will CTA |
| 4:53 pm |
olafelch: |
Politicians all know that the results of their cuts won't be seen until long after they have left politics. #edchat |
| 4:53 pm |
mobienthusiast: |
Who is hosting #edchat please? |
| 4:53 pm |
theresawhite: |
RT @davidwees: @TheNerdyTeacher Arts should never be cut from schools. It is a core subject. #edchat |
| 4:53 pm |
spedteacher: |
@DouglasCrets Tech centric is wonderful...for the district or parents who can afford it. What are my students supposed to do? #edchat |
| 4:53 pm |
akenuam: |
RT @joe_bower: Money for edu reform will never go 2 good use or good effect until teachers are listened to. We r in trenches.. #edchat |
| 4:53 pm |
bjnichols: |
@joe_bower & merit pay tied to test scores will only further the problem of test prep centers. Focus should b on learning and growth #edchat |
| 4:53 pm |
CHuckeba: |
@Aaron_Eyler definitely agree. Blanket district PD is ALWAYS a waste of time. PD needs to be specialized and in small groups. #edchat |
| 4:53 pm |
sandybasker: |
RT @NateStories: RT @Parentella we have loved Kindle for our dyslexic child and many VI children,...read aloud feature opens their world #edchat |
| 4:53 pm |
jonedm: |
In light of current budget situations, what are best ways to get teacher's attention regarding innovative new classroom products? #edchat |
| 4:53 pm |
janwebb21: |
@ianaddison sustainability needs to be consideration - replacing hardware like pcs/laptops expensive - mobile tech more affordable #edchat |
| 4:53 pm |
TheNerdyTeacher: |
@theresawhite - Then where do the cuts take place? #edchat. We have to focus on what students need. |
| 4:53 pm |
wmchamberlain: |
@davidwees The arts really require hands-on time with the teachers. A lot more so than most of the other classes. #edchat |
| 4:53 pm |
olafelch: |
RT @wmchamberlain: Think how much could be saved in rural communities if we required parents to transport their students. #edchat |
| 4:54 pm |
CHuckeba: |
RT @shirleylacroix: RT @davidwees: @TheNerdyTeacher Arts should never be cut from schools. It is a core subject. #edchat |
| 4:54 pm |
akenuam: |
@jonedm training, resources, time to explore #edchat |
| 4:54 pm |
aprilabtbalance: |
@wmchamberlain I don't know any parent that doesn't already transport their student (or pay for transportation). #edchat |
| 4:54 pm |
shirleylacroix: |
@TheNerdyTeacher I think we should distinguish btw sports and PE. They should be different. #edchat |
| 4:54 pm |
chrisludwig: |
Sadly, I think most of the admins on #edchat are right: staffing is the major expense. Need to work at the state budget level to avoid cuts. |
| 4:54 pm |
davidwees: |
Salaries across states (& provinces) should be equalized w/ cost of living bonuses in big cities, then teacher drain becomes less. #edchat |
| 4:54 pm |
lhmiles2: |
@jonedm you need to prove those products are effective. Show us projects or samples that integrated that product #edchat |
| 4:54 pm |
stangea: |
Social studies in Saskatchewan is assessed by classroom teachers for financial, not educational reasons #edchat #Saskedchat |
| 4:54 pm |
wmchamberlain: |
Has anyone broached the subject of cutting travelling sports programs? #edchat |
| 4:54 pm |
jonedm: |
@akenuam You mean offering training? #edchat |
| 4:54 pm |
shawdave: |
@TheNerdyTeacher some students NEED the arts. why cut that? #edchat |
| 4:54 pm |
theresawhite: |
Students NEED the arts and language. It is just as important to develop their brain and reasoning skills as math and science. #edchat |
| 4:54 pm |
aprilabtbalance: |
RT @davidwees: @TheNerdyTeacher Arts should never be cut from schools. It is a core subject. #edchat |
| 4:55 pm |
janwebb21: |
@lisamonthie agree - think it is important that all involved and not doing own thing or big picture never addressed @Aaron_Eyler #edchat |
| 4:55 pm |
CHuckeba: |
@jonedm hold teachers accountable for growing and implementing new lesson ideas--maybe say 5 new a semester to encourage growth. #edchat |
| 4:55 pm |
NateStories: |
RT @GetSweetie: #edchat If teachers want to change schools, get the parents involved, educate them of your needs, build your support system |
| 4:55 pm |
elanaleoni: |
Possibly a stupid Q: If a teacher wanted to be a voice in budget decisions, how do they do that? #edchat |
| 4:55 pm |
VanessaSCassie: |
@stangea Can you clarify that statement? #edchat |
| 4:55 pm |
akamrt: |
@bjnichols #edchat If it comes to that, just turn over all the schs to Kaplan http://is.gd/bhmaE |
| 4:55 pm |
janwebb21: |
@colport @ianaddison tis a whole different way of looking at how we resource our schools to make the tech sustainable #edchat |
| 4:55 pm |
jonedm: |
@lhmiles2 Would university study data showing 32% test score improvement help? #edchat |
| 4:56 pm |
wmchamberlain: |
@aprilabtbalance We run busses, some students are on a bus for over 1 1/2 hours a day. #edchat |
| 4:56 pm |
malcolmbellamy: |
the best politicians for education here in the u.k. have been teachers who understand the effects of cuts #edchat |
| 4:56 pm |
theresawhite: |
So glad to see so many RT's of @davidwees "Arts should never be cut from schools, it is a core subject" So important!!! #edchat |
| 4:56 pm |
lisamonthie: |
@bcahrens u should see interactive lectures by @glennw98 http://bit.ly/bUScoS he does a great job #edchat |
| 4:56 pm |
akenuam: |
truth is, there IS an achievement gap facing low-income and minority students disporportionately, how do we combat this? #edchat |
| 4:56 pm |
TheNerdyTeacher: |
OK, I'm NOT against cutting the Arts. Just tossing out an idea. However, schools can no longer provide everything to everyone. #edchat |
| 4:56 pm |
lhmiles2: |
@shawdave @TheNerdyTeacher re: arts Agreed! Some students need the arts to succeed. That's what brings them in and keeps them here #edchat |
| 4:56 pm |
jswiatek: |
Has anyone ever looked at cutting administrator's pay? In our tiny district, high school principals make $80,000/yr! #edchat |
| 4:56 pm |
bjnichols: |
@chrisludwig You are right. Personnel costs make up approx. 90% of our budget. Very little room to cut non-personnel. #edchat |
| 4:56 pm |
lhmiles2: |
@elanaleoni school board elections...run for office #edchat |
| 4:56 pm |
akenuam: |
@jswiatek wow 80K? thats insane! #edchat |
| 4:56 pm |
akamrt: |
@bcahrens #edchat Yes, that made it possible. We don't want to miss great tchrs simply b/c they don't have a certification. |
| 4:56 pm |
shawdave: |
@TheNerdyTeacher not against, or not for? #edchat |
| 4:57 pm |
KSL: |
RT @olafelch: RT @DouglasCrets: Entrepreneurial vision means creating sustainable innovations that enable growth, student achievement and equity. #edchat |
| 4:57 pm |
n8ngrimm: |
RT @bjnichols: pay tied to test scores will only further the problem of test prep centers. Focus should b on learning and growth #edchat |
| 4:57 pm |
jpsteltz: |
how many tchrs SEE a $ budget?do we budget the education 4 children?education is infinite & must b addressed financially as such #edchat |
| 4:57 pm |
TheNerdyTeacher: |
@elanaleoni - We attend budget meetings of our board and speak when we are allowed. #edchat |
| 4:57 pm |
bcahrens: |
If every parent voted, then education would be priority. Doesn't matter how they vote, just that they are heard at the polls. #edchat |
| 4:57 pm |
theresawhite: |
"Why The Arts Are Important in Schools for the Future of the Workplace" Keynote by Dan Pink http://www.tmea.org/2009keynote/ #edchat |
| 4:57 pm |
neilmcdonald7: |
#edchat - cut down on the level of support staff by better federations of schools to share expertise on areas like hr - surely in 21st cent? |
| 4:57 pm |
aprilabtbalance: |
RT @bjnichols @chrisludwig Personnel costs make up approx. 90% of our budget. Very little room to cut non-personnel. #edchat <our dist., 2. |
| 4:57 pm |
InanimateAlice: |
RT @theresawhite: So glad to see so many RT's of @davidwees "Arts should never be cut from schools, it is a core subject" So important!!! #edchat |
| 4:57 pm |
olafelch: |
RT @chrisludwig You are right. Personnel costs make up approx. 90% of our budget. Very little room to cut non-personnel. #edchat |
| 4:57 pm |
CHuckeba: |
@jswiatek but don't administrator's deserve that pay for the time they put in? #edchat |
| 4:58 pm |
AARTPACK: |
#edchat Grade 1 interactive whiteboard activities available NOW. Standards based http://aartpack.com/interactive/updates/prektofive.php |
| 4:58 pm |
jpsteltz: |
RT @jswiatek: Has anyone ever looked at cutting administrator's pay? In our tiny district, high school principals make $80,000/yr! #edchat |
| 4:58 pm |
bcahrens: |
@akamrt agreed. but we don't want gov. to assume no training is needed either. Teachers need training and support of some kind. #edchat |
| 4:58 pm |
elanaleoni: |
@TheNerdyTeacher It's the "when we are allowed" part that worries me :) #edchat |
| 4:58 pm |
wmchamberlain: |
@jswiatek Really? Would you take that job for less? Do you know how much time they spend? Principals need paid better too! #edchat |
| 4:58 pm |
mobienthusiast: |
@SeanBanville thanks #edchat |
| 4:58 pm |
JaneBalvanz: |
@joe_bower Yes, we are in the trenches. That's why I invite @usedgov to #edchat. I always hope Mr. Duncan will join or read. |
| 4:58 pm |
lhmiles2: |
The best way to make decisions around budget cuts & #edreform is to educate students AND community. Make educated decisions together #edchat |
| 4:58 pm |
aaw1976: |
@thenerdyteacher I have decided to do clubs for free at my school. (computer club, craft club, and things like that) for free. #edchat |
| 4:58 pm |
daveandcori: |
RT @tomwhitby: Eliminate mailings by using the internet for parent communication. saves $$$ #edchat - I agree-more ways -http://goo.gl/7CGL |
| 4:58 pm |
TheNerdyTeacher: |
I'm an Arts Fan! Yes, the arts are important. I was just tossing out an thought. I'm getting killed here. :-) #edchat |
| 4:59 pm |
akamrt: |
"What shd b taught & what shd b learned?" Taught vs Learned, difference? Politicians think they r 1 & same & fund tching not lrning #edchat |
| 4:59 pm |
akenuam: |
everyone have an excellent afternoon. follow me for free teacher resources. thanks for a great chat everyone! #edchat |
| 4:59 pm |
elanaleoni: |
@lhmiles2 Just seems like in order to let teachers have a strong voice, there should be another way.. #edchat |
| 4:59 pm |
lhmiles2: |
@bjnichols @chrisludwig Personnel make up a chunk but thats the reason they are 1st to go. What can be cut to save instant money #edchat |
| 4:59 pm |
olafelch: |
@wmchamberlain I agree - no problem with getting top pay for a job well done. #edchat |
| 4:59 pm |
aprilabtbalance: |
RT @lhmiles2: The best way to make decisions around budget cuts & #edreform is to educate students AND community. Make educated decisions together #edchat |
| 4:59 pm |
bcahrens: |
@lisamonthie I think the use of the word interactive is key! #edchat |
| 4:59 pm |
daveandcori: |
RT @joe_bower: Eductn is a long term investment that shd never b cut. To do so would only sacrifice the long term 4 short term gains #edchat |
| 4:59 pm |
malcolmbellamy: |
RT @theresawhite: So glad to see so many RT's of @davidwees "Arts should never be cut from schools, it is a core subject" So important!!! #edchat |
| 4:59 pm |
theresawhite: |
@CHuckeba @jswiatek admins work 8hr/day (to our 6.5) for 11 months, plus nights, weekends, etc. They don't deserve higher pay? #edchat |
| 4:59 pm |
stangea: |
@VanessaSCassie The criteria of public ed efficacy has been reduced unfairly to math and LA. We all see the fallacy in this. #edchat |
| 4:59 pm |
TheNerdyTeacher: |
@elanaleoni - Yup. Paying lip sevice to us is never fun to sit through, but we speak when spoken to. #edchat |
| 4:59 pm |
tomwhitby: |
@chrisludwig The Admins salaries in many cases is proportionally much higher than educators. Supts get 3-4 times salary of a tchr #edchat |
| 5:00 pm |
aprilabtbalance: |
@lhmiles2 as a parent, I get so frustrated b-cuz I don't feel like I have a voice in budget decisions. #edchat |
| 5:00 pm |
daveandcori: |
RT @SeanBanville: RT @colport: Cutting funds in education would be short sighted, but easy target for politicians. #edchat |
| 5:00 pm |
olafelch: |
I'll second that! #edchat |
| 5:00 pm |
seanbanville: |
I think the regular moderators / hosts will archive this #edchat soon. |
| 5:00 pm |
thtlvlmidnight: |
RT @akamrt: Big step in #edreform: End all txtbk purchases + tchrs engage in Collaborative Content Sourcing = money for tools to learn w/ #edchat |
| 5:00 pm |
lhmiles2: |
If we went paperless, perhaps we could save money. Initial start up costs are high but 2-3 yrs out, it is proven to save thousands...#edchat |
| 5:00 pm |
aaw1976: |
@thenerdyteacher many teachers have different artistic talents. in order to keep our kids motivated and to encourage creativity. #edchat |
| 5:00 pm |
bcahrens: |
@jswiatek in my district admins are making $100k to start... #edchat |
| 5:00 pm |
joe_bower: |
RT @n8ngrimm: RT @bjnichols: pay tied to test scores will only further the problem of test prep centers. Focus should b on learning and growth #edchat |
| 5:00 pm |
TheNerdyTeacher: |
Where does the time go! Great #edchat everyone! Don't forget to follow your #edchat buddies to keep the convo going. #edchat |
| 5:00 pm |
akamrt: |
@bcahrens #edchat I was paired w/ great mentor from day 1. Made all the diff. Also thk not being adulterated by edu courses helped too : ) |
| 5:00 pm |
mattguthrie: |
been trying to get copy of our budget for 25 min - online & phone - no luck but plenty of run around #edchat |
| 5:01 pm |
lhmiles2: |
@jonedm No it needs to be a tangible sample. Ask a teacher to pilot tool, create something awesome/enhancing and others will buy in #edchat |
| 5:01 pm |
TheNerdyTeacher: |
@aaw1976 - I've advised many clubs for free because kids needed someone. Running out of free time to do that though. #edchat |
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